Haiku is an OS that I always keep in my radar. It's the only complete desktop operating system the FOSS community has to offer where all basic parts are made to fit together. Is there anybody here...
Haiku is an OS that I always keep in my radar. It's the only complete desktop operating system the FOSS community has to offer where all basic parts are made to fit together. Is there anybody here who uses it as their daily driver? If yes, what's the experience like?
It's not the only one! There is also ReactOS, KolibriOS, Pony OS, and, of course, the crown jewel, the only one of this list that is designed from the word of the Lord himself, TempleOS.
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It's not the only one! There is also ReactOS, KolibriOS, Pony OS, and, of course, the crown jewel, the only one of this list that is designed from the word of the Lord himself, TempleOS.
PonyOS doesn't count, since that is an April Fool's joke. It may work, but that is just because it is a reskin of the author's real project, toaruOS. It hasn't had any development following it's...
PonyOS doesn't count, since that is an April Fool's joke. It may work, but that is just because it is a reskin of the author's real project, toaruOS. It hasn't had any development following it's release.
I just found out that the man who wrote Temple OS recently died. He was apparently hit by a train.
Oh yeah, my bad. I totally forgot about ReactOS. I think I've heard of KolibriOs before, I thought it was a Linux distro. Pony OS I didn't know before. TempleOS, I knew, but it's not the first...
Oh yeah, my bad. I totally forgot about ReactOS. I think I've heard of KolibriOs before, I thought it was a Linux distro. Pony OS I didn't know before. TempleOS, I knew, but it's not the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of "software that I can use one day" :) It's an interesting thing in its own though. I also totally forgot ReactOS Redox, the Rust one. That's something serious too, actively developed when I last checked.
That's interesting, thanks! Skimming the docs a bit, though, I can't see why I'd use this over something like Ruby or Perl which are fully fledged programming languages that can also call out to...
That's interesting, thanks! Skimming the docs a bit, though, I can't see why I'd use this over something like Ruby or Perl which are fully fledged programming languages that can also call out to external programs and manipulate strings very well. And in interactive use, I don't really use most of the shell features anyways (apart from job control and history).
Thanks for the Pony OS recommendation! I'm running it inside VM and as soon as I manage to get it to save it's state (I have to redownload all packages and everything after shutdown) I'll try to...
Thanks for the Pony OS recommendation! I'm running it inside VM and as soon as I manage to get it to save it's state (I have to redownload all packages and everything after shutdown) I'll try to run it on real HW. Just as a challenge. And to show some friends this beautiful piece of software.
Not really in that they do provide a base system, but not really complete for practical desktop use. Windows and Mac OS comes with a suite of desktop utilities and application software that can...
Not really in that they do provide a base system, but not really complete for practical desktop use. Windows and Mac OS comes with a suite of desktop utilities and application software that can help with many usual tasks. BSDs have command line tools for many usual tasks, but I wouldn't count them as desktop productivity tools (bc(1), mail(1), troff, etc.). Such software needs to be manually installed.
Arguably, in this regard Haiku is a less cohesive operating system than many of the BSDs. Haiku is somewhat of a GNU distribution, along with their homemade software.
Arguably, in this regard Haiku is a less cohesive operating system than many of the BSDs. Haiku is somewhat of a GNU distribution, along with their homemade software.
It's unfair to call Haiku a GNU distrobution. Sure, it's built on gcc and includes some GNU utilities, but the core system is built from scratch (barring most of the API design), all the way down...
It's unfair to call Haiku a GNU distrobution. Sure, it's built on gcc and includes some GNU utilities, but the core system is built from scratch (barring most of the API design), all the way down to the kernel.
Hell, I wouldn't even call Linux a GNU distrobution, and Linux relies on GNU tools far more than Haiku does.
I had some driver compatibility issues with it (graphics and networking) so I can't use it as my main OS. I also need Linux for my work. If it weren't for those two things it'd probably be my main OS.
I had some driver compatibility issues with it (graphics and networking) so I can't use it as my main OS. I also need Linux for my work. If it weren't for those two things it'd probably be my main OS.
I am pretty sure that Haiku is the only one left, having taken a lot of the developers and projects who were trying to do the same thing. Zeta got discontinued about a decade ago after it was made...
I am pretty sure that Haiku is the only one left, having taken a lot of the developers and projects who were trying to do the same thing. Zeta got discontinued about a decade ago after it was made clear they did not have the rights to the code they were selling.
It's worth noting that Haiku is not a derivitive in any way. It's a recreation that implements the BeOS ABI/APIs on top of a custom written kernel. It even has the blessings of ACCESS (the current owners of Be's IP), who released the BeBook under a Creative Commons license so they could have complete documentation of the API.
Haiku is an OS that I always keep in my radar. It's the only complete desktop operating system the FOSS community has to offer where all basic parts are made to fit together. Is there anybody here who uses it as their daily driver? If yes, what's the experience like?
It's not the only one! There is also ReactOS, KolibriOS, Pony OS, and, of course, the crown jewel, the only one of this list that is designed from the word of the Lord himself, TempleOS.
PonyOS doesn't count, since that is an April Fool's joke. It may work, but that is just because it is a reskin of the author's real project, toaruOS. It hasn't had any development following it's release.
I just found out that the man who wrote Temple OS recently died. He was apparently hit by a train.
Oh yeah, my bad. I totally forgot about ReactOS. I think I've heard of KolibriOs before, I thought it was a Linux distro. Pony OS I didn't know before. TempleOS, I knew, but it's not the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of "software that I can use one day" :) It's an interesting thing in its own though. I also totally forgot
ReactOSRedox, the Rust one. That's something serious too, actively developed when I last checked.edit: fix os name
Redox is the rust one, ReactOS is an open source implementation of NT, it's trying to be kernel-compatible with Windows.
Whoops, sorry, I confused the two.
That's interesting, thanks! Skimming the docs a bit, though, I can't see why I'd use this over something like Ruby or Perl which are fully fledged programming languages that can also call out to external programs and manipulate strings very well. And in interactive use, I don't really use most of the shell features anyways (apart from job control and history).
Huh, first time learning TempleOS guy died.
There was a really good post a few weeks ago highlighting the cool (and crazy) features of TempleOS.
Thanks for the Pony OS recommendation! I'm running it inside VM and as soon as I manage to get it to save it's state (I have to redownload all packages and everything after shutdown) I'll try to run it on real HW. Just as a challenge. And to show some friends this beautiful piece of software.
AFAIK the BSDs are also in the same mold. Not the only one.
Not really in that they do provide a base system, but not really complete for practical desktop use. Windows and Mac OS comes with a suite of desktop utilities and application software that can help with many usual tasks. BSDs have command line tools for many usual tasks, but I wouldn't count them as desktop productivity tools (bc(1), mail(1), troff, etc.). Such software needs to be manually installed.
Arguably, in this regard Haiku is a less cohesive operating system than many of the BSDs. Haiku is somewhat of a GNU distribution, along with their homemade software.
It's unfair to call Haiku a GNU distrobution. Sure, it's built on gcc and includes some GNU utilities, but the core system is built from scratch (barring most of the API design), all the way down to the kernel.
Hell, I wouldn't even call Linux a GNU distrobution, and Linux relies on GNU tools far more than Haiku does.
I had some driver compatibility issues with it (graphics and networking) so I can't use it as my main OS. I also need Linux for my work. If it weren't for those two things it'd probably be my main OS.
I am pretty sure that Haiku is the only one left, having taken a lot of the developers and projects who were trying to do the same thing. Zeta got discontinued about a decade ago after it was made clear they did not have the rights to the code they were selling.
It's worth noting that Haiku is not a derivitive in any way. It's a recreation that implements the BeOS ABI/APIs on top of a custom written kernel. It even has the blessings of ACCESS (the current owners of Be's IP), who released the BeBook under a Creative Commons license so they could have complete documentation of the API.