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Arcan focuses in on surpassing feature parity with X.Org, releases Durden 0.6 desktop

Tags: linux, arcan, xorg, x11

8 comments

  1. [6]
    jgb
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    Durden/Arcan is really clever software and I can see it carving out a devoted, if relatively small, userbase. With the momentum so heavily behind Wayland I don't anticipate it becoming a major...

    Durden/Arcan is really clever software and I can see it carving out a devoted, if relatively small, userbase. With the momentum so heavily behind Wayland I don't anticipate it becoming a major player in the *nix desktop space but diversity is nearly always a positive. By implementing those X11 features that are out-of-scope for Wayland it should also help us transition towards a post-X world which can only be a good thing.

    Congratulations to Bjorn and his collaborators on the release and the impressive progress they have made.

    4 votes
    1. [2]
      Akir
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      I'll be honest, I read through this and understood nothing. I know what it's trying to do, but I don't understand why. Could you provide some context?

      I'll be honest, I read through this and understood nothing. I know what it's trying to do, but I don't understand why. Could you provide some context?

    2. [3]
      helloworld
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      I remember reading about it couple of years ago, and then I couldn't remember its name or even find it. It is really one of a kind thing and author has purposefully kept it under the radar. I am...

      I remember reading about it couple of years ago, and then I couldn't remember its name or even find it.

      It is really one of a kind thing and author has purposefully kept it under the radar.

      I am wondering, forget mainstream, what will it take to be a first class environment? Toolkit support? Driver support? Author mentioned it can implement support for X and Wayland, so what else is lacking before I can start using it as daily driver and not worry about drivers and DPI scaling?

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        Moonchild
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        Why not try it and see?

        Why not try it and see?

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        1. helloworld
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          It looks like first step is to get arcan and durden working on NixOS. Step 0 would be me finally learning how to package for Nix.

          It looks like first step is to get arcan and durden working on NixOS.

          Step 0 would be me finally learning how to package for Nix.

          1 vote
  2. [2]
    petrichor
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    Integrated audio support, huh. VR support is probably similar to what X compositors are capable of, and the other features mentioned seem pretty straightforward, but I'm not sure what audio...

    Integrated audio support, huh. VR support is probably similar to what X compositors are capable of, and the other features mentioned seem pretty straightforward, but I'm not sure what audio following the desktop paradigm would look like. Sounds interesting (and can only be better than PulseAudio).

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    1. Moonchild
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      Not much progress on that front ATM, but the thing to look at is safespaces. I think there was a video somewhere, though I can't find it now; but that page has a roadmap. This is interesting for a...

      VR

      Not much progress on that front ATM, but the thing to look at is safespaces. I think there was a video somewhere, though I can't find it now; but that page has a roadmap.

      not sure what audio following the desktop paradigm would look like

      This is interesting for a number of reasons, one of which actually is VR. You want to associate the aural position of the sound you hear with the visual position of the window whose application originates the sound. You also want network proxying to work transparently, etc.

      In fact, this has been recognised elsewhere, most notably by pipewire (which the arcan author has described as a poor man's shmif).

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