18 votes 14 days' jail for killing 406 wedge-tailed eagles 'inadequate', animal groups say Posted September 25, 2018 by dubteedub https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/25/14-days-jail-for-killing-406-wedge-tailed-eagles-inadequate-animal-groups-say 4 comments Collapse replies Expand all Comments sorted by most votes newest first order posted relevance OK −  rosco September 27, 2018 Link I'm a little horrified his employer isn't being held accountable as well. This seems to be the executioner taking the sentence for the orders of the king. I feel like some punishment for James is... I'm a little horrified his employer isn't being held accountable as well. This seems to be the executioner taking the sentence for the orders of the king. I feel like some punishment for James is apt, but if he was working under direct orders of his employer, which seems very likely, they should be facing much harsher penalties. Otherwise what is to stop them from hiring someone else and having them do the same thing as part of their duties. 3 votes −  trojanhorse September 28, 2018 Link Parent Yep. Just let's them know it won't be on them whe it hits the fan. A lot of apartment complexes hide behind similar things. Yep. Just let's them know it won't be on them whe it hits the fan. A lot of apartment complexes hide behind similar things. 1 vote −  Bishop September 28, 2018 Link Parent what are apartment complexes hiding? what are apartment complexes hiding? − trojanhorse September 28, 2018 (edited September 28, 2018) Link Parent They aren't hiding things. I meant they are hiding behind laws kind of like this. The thing with this is, the employee took the fall and the employer was protected based on how the law works... They aren't hiding things. I meant they are hiding behind laws kind of like this. The thing with this is, the employee took the fall and the employer was protected based on how the law works despite being in the wrong. I don't want to deter this topic so I won't go into great detail, but apartment complexes are notorious for these kinds of things. The laws are set up in a way that people running the complexes can get away with a lot of stuff. A lot of leases have it written out that they need to give you 24 hours notice to enter your apartment. The things is, the tenant never actually has to see the notice. So they can just enter and later say, "We put a note on your door Tuesday. The wind must have blown it off." It is completely legal for them to put a note of your door and that legally counts as communicating with you even if there was never a back and fourth. SOmething will come up later and they will say, Well we went over this new policy with you early in the year. And what they mean is - they left a note on your door and someone took it down before you saw it or they never actually put the note up. There are all kinds of laws that allow people running complexes to get away with things because they have no burden of proof. The laws give these people a lot of lee way and room to operate. So much they can control situations. I am trying to think how to best explain it. Have you ever worked at a job where a person held a the same position as a group but had one special responsibility and this responsibility gave them special perks that were never meant for them to have but they just kind of presented themselves based on the nature of the situation and they abuse them? The short of it is, these places never have to prove anything. So this gives them a lot of room to manipulate things. A lot of leases will have a clause that says if you do not report damage and that damage causes other damage - you are liable for all of the damage. But the thing about this is - there is no law in place saying apartment complexes has to have some system in place to log and track maintenance requests / repairs. So that means - there is never any evidence apartment 87 submitted a repair request or told maintenance about an issue. Or places with a boiler system won't turn on the ac until July to save money on electricity for an all bills paid complex and they can just say oh a part has been on back order and not have to prove it. There is a real common trick for places with boilers. They will wait real late to switch from heat to cool air. Boiler systems take a long time to heat up and cool an apartment when not having been running. So you won't know if you're pumping hot air or cold air into your place until you feel hot or cold. So these places wait knowing people won't risk turning on the air knowing it could be hot air. It will be 85 out so they just don't turn it on for 3 months because noone ever said they changed to cool air. So they wait and play this out until everyone just assumes it hasn't been switched. Then they switch to cold air and never tell anyone. That way people are reluctant to turn it on and it saves them money on electricity. People jsut slowly risk it and try and realize it was switched over. No law stating they have to switch it over by a certain month and no law saying they have to tell anyone they switched it. And you're wondering why not just ask if it was switched. A lot of places won't answer the office phone and hours are lik 8-5 or 8-4 while people work.