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Southwest heat wave intensifies, breaks records and worsens drought

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    Echinops
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    Even the rainy pnw is already into extreme drought. Unfortunately nothing will be done and more ac units will be blasting away further intensifying climate change.

    Even the rainy pnw is already into extreme drought. Unfortunately nothing will be done and more ac units will be blasting away further intensifying climate change.

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      I read a scientific article a few years back where they predicted that almost all the entire southwest would turn into a desert.

      I read a scientific article a few years back where they predicted that almost all the entire southwest would turn into a desert.

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          Echinops
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          We'll just keep mining water and burning coal until there's none left. That's when change will happen

          We'll just keep mining water and burning coal until there's none left. That's when change will happen

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              Amarok
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              Meh, I don't buy the doom and gloom. Sure, we're in for some suck, and anyone who lives where they can see a large body of water is in for some fun - and possibly, moving inland. That's hardly the...

              Meh, I don't buy the doom and gloom. Sure, we're in for some suck, and anyone who lives where they can see a large body of water is in for some fun - and possibly, moving inland. That's hardly the end of the world. The center of the north american continent can quite comfortably hold everyone who lives in north america and it's not going to turn into a desert further north.

              We can have infinite energy the moment we're done wringing our hands about nuclear. We have methods of farming that operate 24/7/365 using 90% less water and run carbon neutral or even energy positive as a power plant with methane capture and composting. There is no reason to run out of food or carbon neutral energy. None, ever - in fact both should be much more abundant by 2060. We can plant as many trees for as many years as required to vacuum as much carbon out of the air as we want, and it's cheap, with a renaissance in hardwoods as a bonus.

              Planet's going to get warmer. It's not going to become a mad max post-apocalyptic hellscape, barring nukes or comets. Then, one day, it'll start getting cooler again. Probably about 100 years after we get our collective shit together.

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                I agree 100% with everything you've stated here. There is far too much fear-mongering clickbait garbage in our media. This r/collapse stuff is ridiculous. If someone puts in the time to carefully...

                I agree 100% with everything you've stated here. There is far too much fear-mongering clickbait garbage in our media. This r/collapse stuff is ridiculous. If someone puts in the time to carefully examine the science ( a fair amount of reading and critical thinking is required), then they will come to the same conclusions that we have here.

                If I had to give any advice, then it would be to make NO long term plans/investments near the ocean coastlines.

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              Back in 2008, my wife and I read the twenty premises for Derrick Jensen's book Endgame (I ended up reading the book twice and my wife didn't read it). We both talked a great deal about how we were...

              Back in 2008, my wife and I read the twenty premises for Derrick Jensen's book Endgame (I ended up reading the book twice and my wife didn't read it). We both talked a great deal about how we were then being 'green-washed' through the media and advertising. We don't agree with everything that DJ writes. However, he helped us get out of the popular environmental echo chamber.

              I agree with you that most of us will not make it out of this crisis. On the other hand, I believe that the worst of what humans will face may not happen for another 40-60 years from now (and possibly longer). That may seem like a lot of time to prepare but most people won't for a variety of reasons.

              Rather than go into a dissertation, I'll just wrap this up to say the same thing you have. Humans are incredibly adaptable and we know this from studying ancient history. There will be far fewer of us during the worst parts, but we'll come out the other end successfully.

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              This kind of doomerism doesn't belong here. Climate change will absolutely force a change in our lifestyles, but it won't be the end of humans, or the end of human society. Neither will it be...

              I'll speak outloud a little secret, that everyone subconsciously knows:

              We're not going to make it.

              This kind of doomerism doesn't belong here. Climate change will absolutely force a change in our lifestyles, but it won't be the end of humans, or the end of human society. Neither will it be particularly bad if you're in a developed country; the areas that will suffer the most are some of the poorest in the world.

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                I took that statement to mean that our current way of living will not continue indefinitely. However, the statement could have been made in the 'doomerism' context. We'd have to hear from @Loire...

                We're not going to make it.

                I took that statement to mean that our current way of living will not continue indefinitely. However, the statement could have been made in the 'doomerism' context. We'd have to hear from @Loire to be sure.

                Of course, the poorest countries will be dealt the largest blows from this. That seems like it's obvious to most?

                In my opinion, an immediate threat that poses great harm on all of life is plastic pollution. Thankfully, organizations, such as The Ocean Cleanup (and there are others), are addressing these.

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      I mean, unless you can afford to move somewhere else that has better weather, at some point you take on smaller costs that keep life livable. Some of those are not great for the environment, but...

      I mean, unless you can afford to move somewhere else that has better weather, at some point you take on smaller costs that keep life livable. Some of those are not great for the environment, but that kind of small-scale mitigation is all that can be done on an individual scale.

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