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Senate Democrats block mammoth coronavirus stimulus package

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    Macil
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    This article really worked to avoid mentioning what the Democrats' problems with the bill were. I saw previous articles suggesting that the Republicans were trying to put anti-abortion stuff into...

    This article really worked to avoid mentioning what the Democrats' problems with the bill were.

    I saw previous articles suggesting that the Republicans were trying to put anti-abortion stuff into the bill, so I first assumed the issue now was just that and the article was deliberately avoiding talking about that to unfairly demonize the Democrats. But then I googled more for information about the bill (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/refusal-pelosi-consider-universal-cash-payments-response-coronavirus-pandemic) and now I'm just baffled by what's going on. (Edit: I now think this article is an outdated/misleading description of the situation given the info in the replies.)

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      1. NaraVara
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        It's extra fun because the Supreme Court seems to be really wishy-washy in their opinion on what allowable amounts of of delegation of powers are. From the perspective of strict, legal logic it...

        There is little precedent for a program with a similar size and scope.

        It's extra fun because the Supreme Court seems to be really wishy-washy in their opinion on what allowable amounts of of delegation of powers are. From the perspective of strict, legal logic it seems like their track record on these cases is completely arbitrary. But if you consider, instead, that any case where more delegation means looting the treasury on behalf of big corporations then it's good and any case where it means spending on behalf of people or workers or stricter regulations then it's bad then it makes perfect sense.

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    Deimos
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    The vote failed again today, completely on party lines except for Senator Doug Jones of Alabama who was the only Democrat to vote in favor.

    The vote failed again today, completely on party lines except for Senator Doug Jones of Alabama who was the only Democrat to vote in favor.

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      NaraVara
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      Even Joe Manchin had some pretty unambiguous words about the Republican bill.

      The vote failed again today

      Even Joe Manchin had some pretty unambiguous words about the Republican bill.

      “It’s ridiculous. And if they think we’re going to stand by and let them play with a slush fund with all the billionaires and millionaires in the world, they’re wrong," Manchin said. "This is one time they’re not going to screw the average person – and a worker’s going to get a fair shake."

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  3. vorotato
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    "stimulus package" aka wholesale robbing of your working man's taxes by the wealthiest people in this country.

    "stimulus package" aka wholesale robbing of your working man's taxes by the wealthiest people in this country.