Proceed cautiously: The price of eggs is in large part due to the massive avian flu pandemic in North American flocks. It is transmittable to humans and you will be introducing that vector onto...
Proceed cautiously:
The price of eggs is in large part due to the massive avian flu pandemic in North American flocks. It is transmittable to humans and you will be introducing that vector onto your property. I'm hearing turkey will also increase substantially (my business does not process turkey but I know others in businesses that do).
I never owned chickens but I've cared for them for extended periods. It's tromping out to the coop when it's -15 to top off their feed, making sure they have access to liquid water, scooping a dead one off the ground. To get the eggs you'll be picking up annoyed birds, I often put on my motorcycle jacket and gloves so I could just kinda softly yeet them away. The eggs will be more biological than they were to you previously: sometimes slimy, sometimes poopy. I personally have no interest in owning my own chickens. After caring for them I barely like eggs anymore.
Another thing to mention is that chickens are most productive their first two years. After that they will lay fewer eggs until you get pretty much nothing. They will live for quite a bit longer...
Another thing to mention is that chickens are most productive their first two years. After that they will lay fewer eggs until you get pretty much nothing. They will live for quite a bit longer though. So your options are either eat them, try to sell them to someone who will eat them, or keep them at pets for another 5 years. If butchering your chickens sounds awful then you aren't ready to have chickens for food production.
We always kept them as pets, because they still did their duty pecking at pests in the garden, and pooping on the compost pile. Besides, they're fun company. But they work best as part of a larger...
We always kept them as pets, because they still did their duty pecking at pests in the garden, and pooping on the compost pile. Besides, they're fun company. But they work best as part of a larger gardening system, and it's not a trivial amount of work.
A bit of an add to this: if you have kids, they can get very attached too. I dated a woman that kept chickens, and her son bonded strongly with them. Watching the chickens run across the yard and...
A bit of an add to this: if you have kids, they can get very attached too. I dated a woman that kept chickens, and her son bonded strongly with them. Watching the chickens run across the yard and jump in his arms the second he got home from school was like watching pet dogs; definitely looked at chickens different after that
The problem coming in that he then refused to eat chicken, because to him it was like eating dog š¬
Also, if butchering your chickens doesn't sound awful to you, and you've never butchered an animal beforeā¦ you're wrong. It's awful. Frank discussion of slaughter and butchery Even if you don't...
Also, if butchering your chickens doesn't sound awful to you, and you've never butchered an animal beforeā¦ you're wrong. It's awful.
Frank discussion of slaughter and butchery
Even if you don't have any emotional reaction to killing, eviscerating, and dismembering an animal you raised, and even if you don't have a reaction to blood and guts getting strewn about (and reactions to both of those are *very likely* in a random non-sociopath), slaughter and butchery is just difficult, messy, unpleasant work. Animal bodies don't want to come apart easily; you're going to be washing blood and other substances out of your hair afterwards.
Washing anything but sweat out of your hair seems a little extreme when butchering chickens at least. I grew up butchering chickens with my grandmother, it's certainly upsetting at first and still...
Washing anything but sweat out of your hair seems a little extreme when butchering chickens at least. I grew up butchering chickens with my grandmother, it's certainly upsetting at first and still sorta gross to me, but I don't think the mess is that unreasonable. I would consider butchering chickens to be a pretty clean process compared to something like pig or deer.
Though this is all coming from someone who grew up in the country where hunting and butchering animals was just something you had to do. I'm not really sure how that process would feel as an adult that has never done it.
In an effort to get close to my food and know where what I'm eating comes from, the past 2 years my partner and I have raised meat and egg chickens, and last fall I harvested a deer (had CWD, lost...
In an effort to get close to my food and know where what I'm eating comes from, the past 2 years my partner and I have raised meat and egg chickens, and last fall I harvested a deer (had CWD, lost my deposit at the butcher and had to chuck it unfortunately...) at my woods. It took A LOT to work up the courage to process a chicken that first year. It's still far from something I look forward to. I only did one myself out of the first batch of 35, and paid a butcher to do the rest for ~$100. They doubled their prices last year so I did it myself with the help of a friend.
Mostly it's not too bad... Sometimes, though... (not for the squeamish, and as an addendum to "washing blood and other substances out of your hair afterwards...")
We used a rubbermaid to catch blood. Usually you'd dispatch, bird is unconscious in 5 seconds and dead in under a minute, but there would be some posthumous twitching. We'd catch the blood so I could spread it in the woods to rot. I figured, since we already have one disgusting container, might as well throw the offal in there, too. So we got through ~25 of the 35, and one twitched extra hard and flopped into the bucket, and threw stuff literally everywhere. All over my glasses, all over my shirt, hair, face, and I had to go towards it to get it out of that container. Got it out and onto the ground and put some distance between me and it, took five, then continued on. Not... a fun time.
Compared to that, dressing my first deer wasn't anything. It still turns my stomach sometimes thinking about processing my own food, but there's an element of honesty that brings a certain amount of comfort. If I'm gonna eat meat, an animal has to die for it. I'm gonna keep eating meat, so I feel that it's better to ensure that the animals are happy and well cared for until (and during) their One Bad Day.
I've had a long standing policy that if I'm going to eat meat, I have to be willing to kill and process the animal I'm eating. To that end, I've since done it with deer, chicken, cow, pigs, and...
I've had a long standing policy that if I'm going to eat meat, I have to be willing to kill and process the animal I'm eating. To that end, I've since done it with deer, chicken, cow, pigs, and ducks, plus a variety of fish.
I hate doing it but I do feel better knowing that I'm willing to engage with the bad part of it for the part I want. It weirdly makes me feel absolved of the moral problems associated with eating animals - climate impact aside.
While it can be very gross, upsetting, perhaps even traumatizing. I agree that the mess is a bit overstated. Several times a year I'll visit one of our industrial slaughter/processing facilities....
While it can be very gross, upsetting, perhaps even traumatizing. I agree that the mess is a bit overstated. Several times a year I'll visit one of our industrial slaughter/processing facilities. An industrial kill floor is quite messy but the workers are by no means "covered" in fluids or viscera. I'm sure you could botch it enough that one would be but, that isn't the reality when done competently.
Compared to a cow or hog facility, chicken facilities are quite clean (I actually struggle a bit more holding my lunch down in chicken facilities though).
IIRC, there can also be an issue where chickens can pick up some of the lead from contaminated soil (such as places that were close to a lot of traffic while leaded gasoline was in use) and pass...
IIRC, there can also be an issue where chickens can pick up some of the lead from contaminated soil (such as places that were close to a lot of traffic while leaded gasoline was in use) and pass it along in their eggs. Getting a lead test for your backyard if you intend to keep chickens, especially if any children are going to be eating the eggs, is probably a good call.
I met a couple that kept a chicken in a coop in their backyard. Because it was bred to lay eggs often, it needed calcium supplements in its food, or it would start laying soft eggs, which is...
I met a couple that kept a chicken in a coop in their backyard. Because it was bred to lay eggs often, it needed calcium supplements in its food, or it would start laying soft eggs, which is harmful to them.
Your chickens can get sick from wild birds and all human-bird contact (and it seems bird-cat-human/bird-human-cat as well) contact seems to have a risk of transmission.
Your chickens can get sick from wild birds and all human-bird contact (and it seems bird-cat-human/bird-human-cat as well) contact seems to have a risk of transmission.
Yeah I don't have domestic fowl but I have cats and I'm trying to be careful about walking through the mountains of goose poop we get every year on campus and risking bringing something into the...
Yeah I don't have domestic fowl but I have cats and I'm trying to be careful about walking through the mountains of goose poop we get every year on campus and risking bringing something into the house. I can't lose another cat this year
Both, but honestly I'd sincerely hope that whoever is selling birds is checking them before delivering to customers. Really the vector is your flock mingling with wild birds. From there is can...
Both, but honestly I'd sincerely hope that whoever is selling birds is checking them before delivering to customers. Really the vector is your flock mingling with wild birds. From there is can infect mammals. Currently it is a low risk to humans, the problem is that it is continuing to spread and mutate. There have been some signs of mutation making it more amenable to human-to-human transmission. There have been 68 human cases and 1 fatality.
Now if you have a flock and some of them get sick and die, you will be disposing of the body. This is how most infection have happened: culling flocks without proper PPE. Further if you have other pets they can be infected as well. In particular a lot of cats (including large cats) have been killed by the disease both from contact with sick birds and because it is in pet food. Particularly raw pet food. It is expected to be in human food, but the US is pulling back rom good public health policy.
Please don't raise chickens if you donāt know how. Itās going to be a bad time. At the very least make sure that they have a home - one you can easily clean up every once in a while - before you...
Please don't raise chickens if you donāt know how. Itās going to be a bad time. At the very least make sure that they have a home - one you can easily clean up every once in a while - before you buy them. And please talk to your neighbors too if you are in a city. They might not appreciate the noise.
Honestly a much better approach would probably be to just stop eating eggs. If youāre using it in a recipe that doesnāt have āeggsā in the name, it can usually be subbed out without even noticing it. And personally speaking I never found eggs by themselves to be terribly appealing; they could only become edible after adding a ton of salt or other improvements, and as a kid I remember only being able to stomach scrambled eggs if they had cheese folded into them.
I could also say something about the way chickens are raised in CAFOs and such, but Iām sure youāre all tired of that by now.
Some cities might even require a backyard chicken permit for this very reason (I know mine does). So anyone considering it should probably check that out first or you might run the risk of paying...
And please talk to your neighbors too if you are in a city. They might not appreciate the noise.
Some cities might even require a backyard chicken permit for this very reason (I know mine does). So anyone considering it should probably check that out first or you might run the risk of paying a fine and being forced to get rid of your chickens anyways.
On the flip side as someone who really enjoys the taste of eggs, can also just pay the price because itās still cheaper than a lot of other easy protein. Eg if itās $5 for a dozen, thatās still...
On the flip side as someone who really enjoys the taste of eggs, can also just pay the price because itās still cheaper than a lot of other easy protein.
Eg if itās $5 for a dozen, thatās still sub<$2 for 4 eggs. Yeah sure itās a lot more awesome when itās <$1, but itās still cheaper than most other meals
If you like the taste go ahead. But if itās just ācheap easy proteinā I would point you to a can of beans that require no cooking and are as cheap asā¦ well, beans.
If you like the taste go ahead. But if itās just ācheap easy proteinā I would point you to a can of beans that require no cooking and are as cheap asā¦ well, beans.
Beans are awesome, but they do have a different nutrient profile that doesn't suit everyone who's looking to just add some protein. People who are insulin resistant might need to watch out for the...
Beans are awesome, but they do have a different nutrient profile that doesn't suit everyone who's looking to just add some protein. People who are insulin resistant might need to watch out for the carbs in the beans; when researching diets for my PCOS I saw a lot of cautions about relying too heavily on beans because of this. There is also, of course, the digestive difficulty factor. I think lentils have the highest protein-to-carbs ratio and are also the easiest to digest, which is fortunate for me since I think lentils are wonderful. But they really are amazingly cheap, so I hope they're a good option for lots of people.
Beans also donāt scratch the same itch when it comes to cravings, which might also have to do with nutrient profile. Donāt get me wrong, beans (and other legumes) were a staple growing up and I...
Beans also donāt scratch the same itch when it comes to cravings, which might also have to do with nutrient profile. Donāt get me wrong, beans (and other legumes) were a staple growing up and I like them, but theyāre just not the same no matter how theyāre dressed up.
It's probably because beans are an incomplete protein. There's nothing wrong with that, it just means adding in something else to make up the difference. Often it's rice, but that wouldn't really...
There's nothing wrong with that, it just means adding in something else to make up the difference. Often it's rice, but that wouldn't really help with the carb issue.
The whole "complete protein" thing is demi-mythical, given the way most people understand it. You don't have to worry too much about it because your body will assemble those amino acids into...
The whole "complete protein" thing is demi-mythical, given the way most people understand it. You don't have to worry too much about it because your body will assemble those amino acids into complete proteins even if you didn't eat them all in the same meal. Even the article mentions this:
You donāt need to eat complete proteins at every meal to get the body-boosting effects. The goal should be to get a balance of those essential amino acids over the course of the day.
But just about everything has those amino acids in it, so as long as you are eating a varied and balanced diet you should be OK.
I don't think it should make much a difference for satiety, but there are supposedly hundreds of different signals your brain takes in to determine hunger and cravings, so that could very well be one of them.
The way I first read this was that your body will take an incomplete protein and assemble it into a complete one, so I was confused why you then need to intake all the amino acids over the course...
The way I first read this was that your body will take an incomplete protein and assemble it into a complete one, so I was confused why you then need to intake all the amino acids over the course of the day. For clarity, it's the latter you're saying, not the former, right?
Yes, your body gains those amino acids into complete proteins. You donāt need to mix and match foods to get a complete protein in each meal. Beyond that, pretty much every food has amino acids in...
Yes, your body gains those amino acids into complete proteins. You donāt need to mix and match foods to get a complete protein in each meal. Beyond that, pretty much every food has amino acids in them, so you donāt need to be super picky about food because youāre likely to āaccidentallyā complete them given a varied diet.
Beyond that most people actually consume more protein than required so itās not super useful for people who are not bodybuilders or elderly to worry about protein intake.
To add to what Sapholia said about carbs - animal protein is my main source of fat, and carbs then come from the auxiliary items. Eg with eggs, doing tacos with corn tortillas + salsa or an...
To add to what Sapholia said about carbs - animal protein is my main source of fat, and carbs then come from the auxiliary items. Eg with eggs, doing tacos with corn tortillas + salsa or an omelette with potatoes o'brein.
I've always found carbs very easy to add, so my "base" for meals is something that is protein + fat and then build off that
But yes, taste is certainly part of it; I wasn't trying to imply they were the cheapest. Just that it's still cheaper than most
Applesauce is a common substitute, so is banana or yogurt. I was trying to remember the name of that subreddit though so thanks for the reminder. Those are the unsuccessful substitutions for sure....
Applesauce is a common substitute, so is banana or yogurt. I was trying to remember the name of that subreddit though so thanks for the reminder. Those are the unsuccessful substitutions for sure.
I went on a chickpea kick last summer and found out you can use the water you cook chickpeas in as an egg substitute, it's called aquafaba. Supposedly you can even make merengues with it.
It would depend on what you are using it for. In baking, where itās a binder, the most common is a āflax eggā, ground flaxseed and water. If youāre using it as a thickener, there are a ton of...
It would depend on what you are using it for. In baking, where itās a binder, the most common is a āflax eggā, ground flaxseed and water. If youāre using it as a thickener, there are a ton of options but the ideal one will depend on your temperatures, but youād want to use things like starches, gums, or fiber based thickeners like agar or gelatin.
Did you try eggs from a small farm or at least free range? What they eat makes a HUGE difference in flavor. Backyard chickens are some of the best tasting eggs you can find due to their varied...
And personally speaking I never found eggs by themselves to be terribly appealing; they could only become edible after adding a ton of salt or other improvements,
Did you try eggs from a small farm or at least free range? What they eat makes a HUGE difference in flavor.
Backyard chickens are some of the best tasting eggs you can find due to their varied diet and people tend to spoil them. The factory chickens that produce the white eggs in stores live off corn, soybeans and little else. Adding table scraps, insects, a mouse or two, etc... and the eggs will taste much better. You can also alter their diet to change the nutrients in the eggs, such as flax seeds which add omega-3.
I have. I actually spent a good amount of my youth living in a relatively rural place with nearby farms (which have almost all been "developed" since, sadly). Though to be fair, I absolutely hated...
I have. I actually spent a good amount of my youth living in a relatively rural place with nearby farms (which have almost all been "developed" since, sadly). Though to be fair, I absolutely hated eggs at the time and would not have cared for them no matter what.
A few years ago I started a whole food plant based diet and so I haven't touched animal products since. While tofu scrambles are not quite the same thing I actually do prefer it, though that's kind of cheating because a tofu scramble implies that you're adding a ton of extra seasonings. But I also make my own tofu now, and have grown to like the taste of even plain tofu, so I'd still take it over eggs.
But as someone who also likes black licorice, I'm clearly a monster.
I'd say clearly, but I like licorice too and tofu is great if prepared right. Also, Pineapple on pizza is good and I wear socks with sandles... so I'm not one to talk. Kinda want some smoked tofu now.
also likes black licorice, I'm clearly a monster.
I'd say clearly, but I like licorice too and tofu is great if prepared right. Also, Pineapple on pizza is good and I wear socks with sandles... so I'm not one to talk.
Evidently. But the planet needs more monsters like you so thank you for taking the lead. Have you found a way to simplify the tofu making process? What do you use as a coagulant? I find the...
black licorice
Evidently.
But the planet needs more monsters like you so thank you for taking the lead.
Have you found a way to simplify the tofu making process? What do you use as a coagulant? I find the squeeze out soy milk part too annoying and rarely make my own soy products now. Unless you're going to tell me you make tofu with full okara pulp still in ....
Well, if you want the absolute easiest way, buy a soy milk maker. You can buy a machine that will macerate the beans, filter the slurry, and cook it for you automatically. I have heard rave...
Well, if you want the absolute easiest way, buy a soy milk maker. You can buy a machine that will macerate the beans, filter the slurry, and cook it for you automatically. I have heard rave reviews, but theyāre obviously expensive.
Beyond that, separating the okara is a matter of having a good quality nut milk bag and knowing the proper technique. You shouldnāt just be squeezing it to death, you have to do a kind of squeeze-massage hybrid.
Or just use commercial soy milk. You should find one that is just soybeans and water. In the US I think Trader Joeās might work, and I have heard good things about westlife as well.
Iāve been using gypsum. It took forever to get a food grade one I felt I could trust and of course I could only get it in a huge container that could coagulate enough tofu to make three dozen times my weight.
For people who did their homework and are ready, raising your own can be rewarding and healthy for the family. The birds are very nice critters! I support people growing their own food, or having...
lower-grade ones now drawing twice their usual price of what is normally between US$2 and US$3.
āItāll be a couple of months, I would guess at the soonest. Seems like itās two or three months or more before things kind of get right.ā AFP
For people who did their homework and are ready, raising your own can be rewarding and healthy for the family. The birds are very nice critters! I support people growing their own food, or having some source of food to share within a community. Hopefully more of these families will continue to raise them well, and translate into less dependence on massive scale chicken farms.
But I also hope people aren't just.....putting up tiny milk crate cages and killing the birds as soon as they stop laying every day, or any of those inhumane practices like force molting by water+food deprivation. There are also people hatching their own from incubators and I hope they're ready for ~50% of them being roosters. Humanely dispatching and eating the roos is one thing; dumping them onto other people's yards / hobby farms or just neglecting them wouldn't be as good.
Avian flu culling happens every once in a while. I just take the L and buy eggs for $8. If you look at it in percentages, it looks crazy, but sometimes I feel like people get lost in the sauce....
Avian flu culling happens every once in a while. I just take the L and buy eggs for $8. If you look at it in percentages, it looks crazy, but sometimes I feel like people get lost in the sauce. Yeah, it's a 500% or whatever increase in the price of eggs, but you also have to look at the absolute scale - my groceries are like, $6 more expensive for a few weeks? That's well within the bounds of discretionary spending.
And if it's not, for a particular person, eggs are by no means a necessary part of your diet to begin with. And I can't imagine buying a chicken for $400 is in your budget, in that case.
The attitude that I tend to take (which inherited from my father) is that when cutting costs, food should be one of the last places to see cuts. If things get tight Iām more likely to cancel some...
The attitude that I tend to take (which inherited from my father) is that when cutting costs, food should be one of the last places to see cuts. If things get tight Iām more likely to cancel some subscriptions and put on a sweater than cheap out on food.
I 100% agree. It can end up looking like trading your health so you can keep Netflix. There are ways to save on groceries that aren't very extreme, though. It's really easy and low cost to grow...
I 100% agree. It can end up looking like trading your health so you can keep Netflix.
There are ways to save on groceries that aren't very extreme, though. It's really easy and low cost to grow quite a few herbs at home, even if you have to do it indoors. A lot of them are in the mint family, they can be difficult to keep them in bounds in a garden. Big box stores sell seed packets for $2-3.
I used to own chickens and I completely agree with you. The amount of time and energy (cleaning, refilling water/food), materials (food, wood shavings), and space backyard chickens take up aren't...
I used to own chickens and I completely agree with you. The amount of time and energy (cleaning, refilling water/food), materials (food, wood shavings), and space backyard chickens take up aren't worth the hassle. I enjoyed it overall but am unlikely to do it again. From a cost perspective, just buy the top-shelf eggs and you get all the taste for less money. Or in times like these, buy the bottom-shelf eggs for a while until prices normalize
Just adding on itās not comparing eggs to other foods either - itās still cheaper than other meals. Thatās what actually matters and needs to be compared to on if they should be bought or not imo,...
Just adding on itās not comparing eggs to other foods either - itās still cheaper than other meals. Thatās what actually matters and needs to be compared to on if they should be bought or not imo, I donāt see how past prices matter for current budgets
Gas is another one I think some people can get ālost in the sauceā in. My mom used to drive across town to save a few cents on a gallonā¦do the math and the savings is worth 1-2 quarters, which is spent getting there. Or getting gas during hurricane prep and seeing the hour+ long line at the cheapest station, when the one across the street thatās $0.10 more is empty. Aka a single dollar bill more to fill the car up there instead - so substantially better than the hassle and wait otherwise
Frankly, the price for eggs was concerningly low before this. Eggs are eggs. They are made from living creatures, and if a rooster was involved it would be a living creature. Hens may lay a lot of...
Frankly, the price for eggs was concerningly low before this. Eggs are eggs. They are made from living creatures, and if a rooster was involved it would be a living creature. Hens may lay a lot of eggs relatively, but the scale where grocery stores stock multiple refrigerated cases worth and they sell for ~$2 per dozen is insane.
But of course to believe this you have to care about chickens and animal husbandry, which the vast majority of people do not.
A live chick can be picked up for <$5 at the local farm store where I live, though it'd take 5 or so months to start laying. A chicken coup will cost the most whether you build it yourself or buy one.
A live chick can be picked up for <$5 at the local farm store where I live, though it'd take 5 or so months to start laying. A chicken coup will cost the most whether you build it yourself or buy one.
I have friends that have started raising chickens in the last several years. Yes, it takes work and thereās a learning curve, but every one of them loves it. The one caveat being someone who...
I have friends that have started raising chickens in the last several years. Yes, it takes work and thereās a learning curve, but every one of them loves it.
The one caveat being someone who decided very quickly that the rooster had to go. He was a bullying asshole injuring the hens and nobody appreciated the wake up call. I think he made it less than a week.
Butā¦ if youāre into the responsibility of learning about their health and dietary needs, can deal with things like accidentally getting a bale of hay with mites and having to treat for that, then it can be really enjoyable and rewarding. They have personalities and enjoy toys and bring a whole new appreciation to eggs - while delivering a much better tasting egg.
All of this is to say, if I were in a situation that allowed for it, Iād seriously consider having chickensā¦ but chickens are not egg vending machines. You have to be able to be part farmer.
That's really good to hear your friends' are having good experiences! We have two 'roos that we love and appreciate, but yeah they're not for everyone, realistically. The boys make this super cute...
That's really good to hear your friends' are having good experiences!
We have two 'roos that we love and appreciate, but yeah they're not for everyone, realistically. The boys make this super cute "b'roop! ..... b'roop!!" noises when there are snacks put out, and they'll cutely pick up a piece, and put it down in front of the hens, and wait for the girls to all have access before eating any themselves. We also have a red tail hawk visitor this week, and the roos are earning their keep being loud and alert in all their "you feelin' lucky, punk?" strut. (plus visiting crow friends keeping it away)
Not all roos are gentle, but also not all of them are bullying jerks either. There are lots of municipalities that plain don't even allow any roosters at all so I really hope people do their homework... On the positive side, we just heard of Rooster Dude Ranches, where people who have the space can just put up fences and take in everybody's rejected roos -- no fights since there aren't any hens to fight over. Just dude free ranging and hanging out as a pretty bachelor flock.
Birds need care and space beyond dumping food and water down. I don't think they're really worth it for the temporary price reduction....the article says $40 a bird sounds insane to me. And feed is always getting more expensive. BUT for people who are prepared for the work, it really is a good way to get local nutrition, get a quick turnaround on compost and gardening manure.
Thereās something deeply rewarding in tending to living things this way IMO. Great respect. Some of said friends set up a sizable coop and attached run with toys and feeders and whatnot for maybe...
Thereās something deeply rewarding in tending to living things this way IMO. Great respect.
Some of said friends set up a sizable coop and attached run with toys and feeders and whatnot for maybe 10 or so hens? Theyāre adding more and putting up an occasionally-open roadside egg-stand for the neighborhood.
Itās probably not going to produce enough to keep multiple households in eggs fully, but this family of 4 loved the birds but were growing tired of trying to keep up with consuming 4 to 8 eggs daily. I think thatās a kind of ideal setup. Micro-level production, so not everybody has to keep chickens, but the folks that enjoy it can do so and offset the costs at least some.
Yeah realistically folks don't eat 2 eggs a day every day :/ more when baking, less when doing vegan diet weeks etc. Our tiny flock of 10 are producing more than enough for our needs. But also not...
Yeah realistically folks don't eat 2 eggs a day every day :/ more when baking, less when doing vegan diet weeks etc. Our tiny flock of 10 are producing more than enough for our needs. But also not everyone want to buy eggs from local free range : I'm changing lower prices than battery cage hens at the store but I still have extras to give away most weeks. One person told us they didn't feel safe and stopped buying. It's like many years ago there was a pet food poisoning and people didn't know how to feed animals aside from a bag that says "cat" from a store.
The article guy says he needs to replenish birds every few months is also making me scratch my head -- how are they dying so frequently??
Itās so weird to me but I reckon if you charged higher prices (or had a higher price written down but ātoday only discountedā) then you might have fewer potential customers worrying? Itās like,...
I'm changing lower prices than battery cage hens at the store but I still have extras to give away most weeks. One person told us they didn't feel safe and stopped buying.
Itās so weird to me but I reckon if you charged higher prices (or had a higher price written down but ātoday only discountedā) then you might have fewer potential customers worrying? Itās like, youāre offering luxury produce for cheaper prices which for some reason tricks peopleās minds into being suspicious rather than grateful?
I think the food safety fear factor varies depending on the locality. In the semi-rural area around my hometown non-commercial eggs continue to be in demand as theyāve been for as long as I can...
I think the food safety fear factor varies depending on the locality. In the semi-rural area around my hometown non-commercial eggs continue to be in demand as theyāve been for as long as I can remember.
Itās a poor area where many of those who donāt currently have a few chickens and/or a small garden did at one point or their parents did though, which might have something to do with it.
Could be an odd breed. Chickens can be really beautiful birds, especially if you're able to get your hands on some of the breeds that aren't bred specifically for food.
Could be an odd breed. Chickens can be really beautiful birds, especially if you're able to get your hands on some of the breeds that aren't bred specifically for food.
True, there's a wide range of colors and patterns and there's a lot of odd breeds people might like too. I wouldn't mind having some Silkies, supposed to be great pets. Ayam Cemani would be great...
True, there's a wide range of colors and patterns and there's a lot of odd breeds people might like too. I wouldn't mind having some Silkies, supposed to be great pets. Ayam Cemani would be great to get as chick, sell the adults to restaurants looking for novelty food and might even be able to sell the egg shells if you can get the egg out without cracking them.
Silkies are absolutely delicious as well ...as well as adorable. I would love to have a bunch of them running around with their little fuzzy feet, so cute. The Ayam Cemani are so cool they're...
Silkies are absolutely delicious as well
...as well as adorable. I would love to have a bunch of them running around with their little fuzzy feet, so cute. The Ayam Cemani are so cool they're almost like onyx statues. I'd also want to get a Phoenix rooster, so pretty.
Not in a situation where keeping chickens makes sense now, but I grew up in a family that kept them. Theyāre a fair amount of work but the eggs are so much better than what you get at the grocery...
Not in a situation where keeping chickens makes sense now, but I grew up in a family that kept them.
Theyāre a fair amount of work but the eggs are so much better than what you get at the grocery store (even the fancy $10 āfree rangeā eggs donāt compare), and it gave us a way to turn the considerable supply of food scraps produced by a moderately large family into something of value with a much shorter turnaround time than composting.
If you let them roam the garden occasionally they do great at keeping bugs in check too. Recommend having a dog with some amount of herding heritage for this situation, like the half Australian shepherd we had that would keep them from wandering off too far despite never having been trained for that.
My family has always loved eggs though. For nice weekend breakfasts we could plow through a dozen scrambled without even trying.
I was promised cheaper eggs if the orange shitstain was made President again. Why aren't my eggs cheaper? They were pretty clear that expensive eggs were Biden's fault and it had nothing to do...
I was promised cheaper eggs if the orange shitstain was made President again. Why aren't my eggs cheaper? They were pretty clear that expensive eggs were Biden's fault and it had nothing to do with bird flu. Republicans wouldn't just make shit up like that, would they?
What does this have to do with the idiot-in-chief and it's from avian flu, not much they can do about egg costs there. Also. are you actually listening to what shitstain has to say? That creature...
What does this have to do with the idiot-in-chief and it's from avian flu, not much they can do about egg costs there.
Also. are you actually listening to what shitstain has to say? That creature and his ilk will rot your brain and give you high blood pressure. Can't trust a thing he says anyway, best to just avoid listening when possible.
Proceed cautiously:
Another thing to mention is that chickens are most productive their first two years. After that they will lay fewer eggs until you get pretty much nothing. They will live for quite a bit longer though. So your options are either eat them, try to sell them to someone who will eat them, or keep them at pets for another 5 years. If butchering your chickens sounds awful then you aren't ready to have chickens for food production.
We always kept them as pets, because they still did their duty pecking at pests in the garden, and pooping on the compost pile. Besides, they're fun company. But they work best as part of a larger gardening system, and it's not a trivial amount of work.
A bit of an add to this: if you have kids, they can get very attached too. I dated a woman that kept chickens, and her son bonded strongly with them. Watching the chickens run across the yard and jump in his arms the second he got home from school was like watching pet dogs; definitely looked at chickens different after that
The problem coming in that he then refused to eat chicken, because to him it was like eating dog š¬
Also, if butchering your chickens doesn't sound awful to you, and you've never butchered an animal beforeā¦ you're wrong. It's awful.
Frank discussion of slaughter and butchery
Even if you don't have any emotional reaction to killing, eviscerating, and dismembering an animal you raised, and even if you don't have a reaction to blood and guts getting strewn about (and reactions to both of those are *very likely* in a random non-sociopath), slaughter and butchery is just difficult, messy, unpleasant work. Animal bodies don't want to come apart easily; you're going to be washing blood and other substances out of your hair afterwards.Washing anything but sweat out of your hair seems a little extreme when butchering chickens at least. I grew up butchering chickens with my grandmother, it's certainly upsetting at first and still sorta gross to me, but I don't think the mess is that unreasonable. I would consider butchering chickens to be a pretty clean process compared to something like pig or deer.
Though this is all coming from someone who grew up in the country where hunting and butchering animals was just something you had to do. I'm not really sure how that process would feel as an adult that has never done it.
In an effort to get close to my food and know where what I'm eating comes from, the past 2 years my partner and I have raised meat and egg chickens, and last fall I harvested a deer (had CWD, lost my deposit at the butcher and had to chuck it unfortunately...) at my woods. It took A LOT to work up the courage to process a chicken that first year. It's still far from something I look forward to. I only did one myself out of the first batch of 35, and paid a butcher to do the rest for ~$100. They doubled their prices last year so I did it myself with the help of a friend.
Mostly it's not too bad... Sometimes, though... (not for the squeamish, and as an addendum to "washing blood and other substances out of your hair afterwards...")
We used a rubbermaid to catch blood. Usually you'd dispatch, bird is unconscious in 5 seconds and dead in under a minute, but there would be some posthumous twitching. We'd catch the blood so I could spread it in the woods to rot. I figured, since we already have one disgusting container, might as well throw the offal in there, too. So we got through ~25 of the 35, and one twitched extra hard and flopped into the bucket, and threw stuff literally everywhere. All over my glasses, all over my shirt, hair, face, and I had to go towards it to get it out of that container. Got it out and onto the ground and put some distance between me and it, took five, then continued on. Not... a fun time.
Compared to that, dressing my first deer wasn't anything. It still turns my stomach sometimes thinking about processing my own food, but there's an element of honesty that brings a certain amount of comfort. If I'm gonna eat meat, an animal has to die for it. I'm gonna keep eating meat, so I feel that it's better to ensure that the animals are happy and well cared for until (and during) their One Bad Day.
I've had a long standing policy that if I'm going to eat meat, I have to be willing to kill and process the animal I'm eating. To that end, I've since done it with deer, chicken, cow, pigs, and ducks, plus a variety of fish.
I hate doing it but I do feel better knowing that I'm willing to engage with the bad part of it for the part I want. It weirdly makes me feel absolved of the moral problems associated with eating animals - climate impact aside.
While it can be very gross, upsetting, perhaps even traumatizing. I agree that the mess is a bit overstated. Several times a year I'll visit one of our industrial slaughter/processing facilities. An industrial kill floor is quite messy but the workers are by no means "covered" in fluids or viscera. I'm sure you could botch it enough that one would be but, that isn't the reality when done competently.
Compared to a cow or hog facility, chicken facilities are quite clean (I actually struggle a bit more holding my lunch down in chicken facilities though).
IIRC, there can also be an issue where chickens can pick up some of the lead from contaminated soil (such as places that were close to a lot of traffic while leaded gasoline was in use) and pass it along in their eggs. Getting a lead test for your backyard if you intend to keep chickens, especially if any children are going to be eating the eggs, is probably a good call.
I met a couple that kept a chicken in a coop in their backyard. Because it was bred to lay eggs often, it needed calcium supplements in its food, or it would start laying soft eggs, which is harmful to them.
Yeah, you'll often use an egg laying feed that has those nutrients necessary for egg production.
Your chickens can get sick from wild birds and all human-bird contact (and it seems bird-cat-human/bird-human-cat as well) contact seems to have a risk of transmission.
Yeah I don't have domestic fowl but I have cats and I'm trying to be careful about walking through the mountains of goose poop we get every year on campus and risking bringing something into the house. I can't lose another cat this year
Both, but honestly I'd sincerely hope that whoever is selling birds is checking them before delivering to customers. Really the vector is your flock mingling with wild birds. From there is can infect mammals. Currently it is a low risk to humans, the problem is that it is continuing to spread and mutate. There have been some signs of mutation making it more amenable to human-to-human transmission. There have been 68 human cases and 1 fatality.
Now if you have a flock and some of them get sick and die, you will be disposing of the body. This is how most infection have happened: culling flocks without proper PPE. Further if you have other pets they can be infected as well. In particular a lot of cats (including large cats) have been killed by the disease both from contact with sick birds and because it is in pet food. Particularly raw pet food. It is expected to be in human food, but the US is pulling back rom good public health policy.
Yup, I'm really hopeful one of my neighbors will. In the meantime, there are a few places a couple of miles away. Local chicken eggs are now $7/dozen.
Please don't raise chickens if you donāt know how. Itās going to be a bad time. At the very least make sure that they have a home - one you can easily clean up every once in a while - before you buy them. And please talk to your neighbors too if you are in a city. They might not appreciate the noise.
Honestly a much better approach would probably be to just stop eating eggs. If youāre using it in a recipe that doesnāt have āeggsā in the name, it can usually be subbed out without even noticing it. And personally speaking I never found eggs by themselves to be terribly appealing; they could only become edible after adding a ton of salt or other improvements, and as a kid I remember only being able to stomach scrambled eggs if they had cheese folded into them.
I could also say something about the way chickens are raised in CAFOs and such, but Iām sure youāre all tired of that by now.
Some cities might even require a backyard chicken permit for this very reason (I know mine does). So anyone considering it should probably check that out first or you might run the risk of paying a fine and being forced to get rid of your chickens anyways.
On the flip side as someone who really enjoys the taste of eggs, can also just pay the price because itās still cheaper than a lot of other easy protein.
Eg if itās $5 for a dozen, thatās still sub<$2 for 4 eggs. Yeah sure itās a lot more awesome when itās <$1, but itās still cheaper than most other meals
If you like the taste go ahead. But if itās just ācheap easy proteinā I would point you to a can of beans that require no cooking and are as cheap asā¦ well, beans.
Beans are awesome, but they do have a different nutrient profile that doesn't suit everyone who's looking to just add some protein. People who are insulin resistant might need to watch out for the carbs in the beans; when researching diets for my PCOS I saw a lot of cautions about relying too heavily on beans because of this. There is also, of course, the digestive difficulty factor. I think lentils have the highest protein-to-carbs ratio and are also the easiest to digest, which is fortunate for me since I think lentils are wonderful. But they really are amazingly cheap, so I hope they're a good option for lots of people.
Beans also donāt scratch the same itch when it comes to cravings, which might also have to do with nutrient profile. Donāt get me wrong, beans (and other legumes) were a staple growing up and I like them, but theyāre just not the same no matter how theyāre dressed up.
It's probably because beans are an incomplete protein.
There's nothing wrong with that, it just means adding in something else to make up the difference. Often it's rice, but that wouldn't really help with the carb issue.
The whole "complete protein" thing is demi-mythical, given the way most people understand it. You don't have to worry too much about it because your body will assemble those amino acids into complete proteins even if you didn't eat them all in the same meal. Even the article mentions this:
But just about everything has those amino acids in it, so as long as you are eating a varied and balanced diet you should be OK.
I don't think it should make much a difference for satiety, but there are supposedly hundreds of different signals your brain takes in to determine hunger and cravings, so that could very well be one of them.
The way I first read this was that your body will take an incomplete protein and assemble it into a complete one, so I was confused why you then need to intake all the amino acids over the course of the day. For clarity, it's the latter you're saying, not the former, right?
Yes, your body gains those amino acids into complete proteins. You donāt need to mix and match foods to get a complete protein in each meal. Beyond that, pretty much every food has amino acids in them, so you donāt need to be super picky about food because youāre likely to āaccidentallyā complete them given a varied diet.
Beyond that most people actually consume more protein than required so itās not super useful for people who are not bodybuilders or elderly to worry about protein intake.
To add to what Sapholia said about carbs - animal protein is my main source of fat, and carbs then come from the auxiliary items. Eg with eggs, doing tacos with corn tortillas + salsa or an omelette with potatoes o'brein.
I've always found carbs very easy to add, so my "base" for meals is something that is protein + fat and then build off that
But yes, taste is certainly part of it; I wasn't trying to imply they were the cheapest. Just that it's still cheaper than most
What do you use? My wife is celiac and we could use all the makeshift binding agents we can get. Hoping it's more simple than it sounds...
Applesauce is a common substitute, so is banana or yogurt. I was trying to remember the name of that subreddit though so thanks for the reminder. Those are the unsuccessful substitutions for sure.
Egg substitutes for baking (kitchen aid website)
I went on a chickpea kick last summer and found out you can use the water you cook chickpeas in as an egg substitute, it's called aquafaba. Supposedly you can even make merengues with it.
It would depend on what you are using it for. In baking, where itās a binder, the most common is a āflax eggā, ground flaxseed and water. If youāre using it as a thickener, there are a ton of options but the ideal one will depend on your temperatures, but youād want to use things like starches, gums, or fiber based thickeners like agar or gelatin.
Did you try eggs from a small farm or at least free range? What they eat makes a HUGE difference in flavor.
Backyard chickens are some of the best tasting eggs you can find due to their varied diet and people tend to spoil them. The factory chickens that produce the white eggs in stores live off corn, soybeans and little else. Adding table scraps, insects, a mouse or two, etc... and the eggs will taste much better. You can also alter their diet to change the nutrients in the eggs, such as flax seeds which add omega-3.
I have. I actually spent a good amount of my youth living in a relatively rural place with nearby farms (which have almost all been "developed" since, sadly). Though to be fair, I absolutely hated eggs at the time and would not have cared for them no matter what.
A few years ago I started a whole food plant based diet and so I haven't touched animal products since. While tofu scrambles are not quite the same thing I actually do prefer it, though that's kind of cheating because a tofu scramble implies that you're adding a ton of extra seasonings. But I also make my own tofu now, and have grown to like the taste of even plain tofu, so I'd still take it over eggs.
But as someone who also likes black licorice, I'm clearly a monster.
I'd say clearly, but I like licorice too and tofu is great if prepared right. Also, Pineapple on pizza is good and I wear socks with sandles... so I'm not one to talk.
Kinda want some smoked tofu now.
Evidently.
But the planet needs more monsters like you so thank you for taking the lead.
Have you found a way to simplify the tofu making process? What do you use as a coagulant? I find the squeeze out soy milk part too annoying and rarely make my own soy products now. Unless you're going to tell me you make tofu with full okara pulp still in ....
Well, if you want the absolute easiest way, buy a soy milk maker. You can buy a machine that will macerate the beans, filter the slurry, and cook it for you automatically. I have heard rave reviews, but theyāre obviously expensive.
Beyond that, separating the okara is a matter of having a good quality nut milk bag and knowing the proper technique. You shouldnāt just be squeezing it to death, you have to do a kind of squeeze-massage hybrid.
Or just use commercial soy milk. You should find one that is just soybeans and water. In the US I think Trader Joeās might work, and I have heard good things about westlife as well.
Iāve been using gypsum. It took forever to get a food grade one I felt I could trust and of course I could only get it in a huge container that could coagulate enough tofu to make three dozen times my weight.
For people who did their homework and are ready, raising your own can be rewarding and healthy for the family. The birds are very nice critters! I support people growing their own food, or having some source of food to share within a community. Hopefully more of these families will continue to raise them well, and translate into less dependence on massive scale chicken farms.
But I also hope people aren't just.....putting up tiny milk crate cages and killing the birds as soon as they stop laying every day, or any of those inhumane practices like force molting by water+food deprivation. There are also people hatching their own from incubators and I hope they're ready for ~50% of them being roosters. Humanely dispatching and eating the roos is one thing; dumping them onto other people's yards / hobby farms or just neglecting them wouldn't be as good.
Avian flu culling happens every once in a while. I just take the L and buy eggs for $8. If you look at it in percentages, it looks crazy, but sometimes I feel like people get lost in the sauce. Yeah, it's a 500% or whatever increase in the price of eggs, but you also have to look at the absolute scale - my groceries are like, $6 more expensive for a few weeks? That's well within the bounds of discretionary spending.
And if it's not, for a particular person, eggs are by no means a necessary part of your diet to begin with. And I can't imagine buying a chicken for $400 is in your budget, in that case.
The attitude that I tend to take (which inherited from my father) is that when cutting costs, food should be one of the last places to see cuts. If things get tight Iām more likely to cancel some subscriptions and put on a sweater than cheap out on food.
I 100% agree. It can end up looking like trading your health so you can keep Netflix.
There are ways to save on groceries that aren't very extreme, though. It's really easy and low cost to grow quite a few herbs at home, even if you have to do it indoors. A lot of them are in the mint family, they can be difficult to keep them in bounds in a garden. Big box stores sell seed packets for $2-3.
Depends..... Cut snacks, cut pop, cut eating out.
I used to own chickens and I completely agree with you. The amount of time and energy (cleaning, refilling water/food), materials (food, wood shavings), and space backyard chickens take up aren't worth the hassle. I enjoyed it overall but am unlikely to do it again. From a cost perspective, just buy the top-shelf eggs and you get all the taste for less money. Or in times like these, buy the bottom-shelf eggs for a while until prices normalize
Just adding on itās not comparing eggs to other foods either - itās still cheaper than other meals. Thatās what actually matters and needs to be compared to on if they should be bought or not imo, I donāt see how past prices matter for current budgets
Gas is another one I think some people can get ālost in the sauceā in. My mom used to drive across town to save a few cents on a gallonā¦do the math and the savings is worth 1-2 quarters, which is spent getting there. Or getting gas during hurricane prep and seeing the hour+ long line at the cheapest station, when the one across the street thatās $0.10 more is empty. Aka a single dollar bill more to fill the car up there instead - so substantially better than the hassle and wait otherwise
Frankly, the price for eggs was concerningly low before this. Eggs are eggs. They are made from living creatures, and if a rooster was involved it would be a living creature. Hens may lay a lot of eggs relatively, but the scale where grocery stores stock multiple refrigerated cases worth and they sell for ~$2 per dozen is insane.
But of course to believe this you have to care about chickens and animal husbandry, which the vast majority of people do not.
A live chick can be picked up for <$5 at the local farm store where I live, though it'd take 5 or so months to start laying. A chicken coup will cost the most whether you build it yourself or buy one.
I have friends that have started raising chickens in the last several years. Yes, it takes work and thereās a learning curve, but every one of them loves it.
The one caveat being someone who decided very quickly that the rooster had to go. He was a bullying asshole injuring the hens and nobody appreciated the wake up call. I think he made it less than a week.
Butā¦ if youāre into the responsibility of learning about their health and dietary needs, can deal with things like accidentally getting a bale of hay with mites and having to treat for that, then it can be really enjoyable and rewarding. They have personalities and enjoy toys and bring a whole new appreciation to eggs - while delivering a much better tasting egg.
All of this is to say, if I were in a situation that allowed for it, Iād seriously consider having chickensā¦ but chickens are not egg vending machines. You have to be able to be part farmer.
That's really good to hear your friends' are having good experiences!
We have two 'roos that we love and appreciate, but yeah they're not for everyone, realistically. The boys make this super cute "b'roop! ..... b'roop!!" noises when there are snacks put out, and they'll cutely pick up a piece, and put it down in front of the hens, and wait for the girls to all have access before eating any themselves. We also have a red tail hawk visitor this week, and the roos are earning their keep being loud and alert in all their "you feelin' lucky, punk?" strut. (plus visiting crow friends keeping it away)
Not all roos are gentle, but also not all of them are bullying jerks either. There are lots of municipalities that plain don't even allow any roosters at all so I really hope people do their homework... On the positive side, we just heard of Rooster Dude Ranches, where people who have the space can just put up fences and take in everybody's rejected roos -- no fights since there aren't any hens to fight over. Just dude free ranging and hanging out as a pretty bachelor flock.
Birds need care and space beyond dumping food and water down. I don't think they're really worth it for the temporary price reduction....the article says $40 a bird sounds insane to me. And feed is always getting more expensive. BUT for people who are prepared for the work, it really is a good way to get local nutrition, get a quick turnaround on compost and gardening manure.
Thereās something deeply rewarding in tending to living things this way IMO. Great respect.
Some of said friends set up a sizable coop and attached run with toys and feeders and whatnot for maybe 10 or so hens? Theyāre adding more and putting up an occasionally-open roadside egg-stand for the neighborhood.
Itās probably not going to produce enough to keep multiple households in eggs fully, but this family of 4 loved the birds but were growing tired of trying to keep up with consuming 4 to 8 eggs daily. I think thatās a kind of ideal setup. Micro-level production, so not everybody has to keep chickens, but the folks that enjoy it can do so and offset the costs at least some.
Yeah realistically folks don't eat 2 eggs a day every day :/ more when baking, less when doing vegan diet weeks etc. Our tiny flock of 10 are producing more than enough for our needs. But also not everyone want to buy eggs from local free range : I'm changing lower prices than battery cage hens at the store but I still have extras to give away most weeks. One person told us they didn't feel safe and stopped buying. It's like many years ago there was a pet food poisoning and people didn't know how to feed animals aside from a bag that says "cat" from a store.
The article guy says he needs to replenish birds every few months is also making me scratch my head -- how are they dying so frequently??
Itās so weird to me but I reckon if you charged higher prices (or had a higher price written down but ātoday only discountedā) then you might have fewer potential customers worrying? Itās like, youāre offering luxury produce for cheaper prices which for some reason tricks peopleās minds into being suspicious rather than grateful?
yeah it's the darnest thing. I might have to try that. -..-
I think the food safety fear factor varies depending on the locality. In the semi-rural area around my hometown non-commercial eggs continue to be in demand as theyāve been for as long as I can remember.
Itās a poor area where many of those who donāt currently have a few chickens and/or a small garden did at one point or their parents did though, which might have something to do with it.
I think he either has a large flock or he's old enough that "every few months" is twice a year at most. I assume he's not just feeding the coyotes
I'm assuming those were hens old enough lay, a special breed or there's just been so many killed by the flu that there is high demand in his area.
Could be an odd breed. Chickens can be really beautiful birds, especially if you're able to get your hands on some of the breeds that aren't bred specifically for food.
True, there's a wide range of colors and patterns and there's a lot of odd breeds people might like too. I wouldn't mind having some Silkies, supposed to be great pets. Ayam Cemani would be great to get as chick, sell the adults to restaurants looking for novelty food and might even be able to sell the egg shells if you can get the egg out without cracking them.
Silkies are absolutely delicious as well
...as well as adorable. I would love to have a bunch of them running around with their little fuzzy feet, so cute. The Ayam Cemani are so cool they're almost like onyx statues. I'd also want to get a Phoenix rooster, so pretty.
For a minute I thought you were talking about kangaroos. I don't imagine those make good companions for chickens.
Not in a situation where keeping chickens makes sense now, but I grew up in a family that kept them.
Theyāre a fair amount of work but the eggs are so much better than what you get at the grocery store (even the fancy $10 āfree rangeā eggs donāt compare), and it gave us a way to turn the considerable supply of food scraps produced by a moderately large family into something of value with a much shorter turnaround time than composting.
If you let them roam the garden occasionally they do great at keeping bugs in check too. Recommend having a dog with some amount of herding heritage for this situation, like the half Australian shepherd we had that would keep them from wandering off too far despite never having been trained for that.
My family has always loved eggs though. For nice weekend breakfasts we could plow through a dozen scrambled without even trying.
Those hens were worth as much as 30 cartons of a dozen eggs at $13.50/dozen, hopefully he bought them for the long haul and not just the shortage.
I was promised cheaper eggs if the orange shitstain was made President again. Why aren't my eggs cheaper? They were pretty clear that expensive eggs were Biden's fault and it had nothing to do with bird flu. Republicans wouldn't just make shit up like that, would they?
Just talked to a supporter family member. Cheaper groceries "Not yet but it's coming" apparently. Nevermind they said day 1.
What does this have to do with the idiot-in-chief and it's from avian flu, not much they can do about egg costs there.
Also. are you actually listening to what shitstain has to say? That creature and his ilk will rot your brain and give you high blood pressure. Can't trust a thing he says anyway, best to just avoid listening when possible.