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Do you play World of Warcraft? Are you excited for the new expansion?

The new expansion for World of Warcraft is supposed to drop in about a month. Thought I'd see if any of you Tilderoos play WoW and what you think of it. I have been playing on and off since I was a kid and I've been having tons of fun with the introduction of the Mythic+ system in Legion. I'd love to hear about people's WoW stories and experiences with the game!

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    Triseult
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    I quit WoW in 2009 because I've come to realize I've got an addictive personality when it comes to online games and it was eating up my life. I've made myself the promise I wouldn't play MMOs ever...

    I quit WoW in 2009 because I've come to realize I've got an addictive personality when it comes to online games and it was eating up my life. I've made myself the promise I wouldn't play MMOs ever again.

    I'm usually very happy about this decision, but I get a bit of a twinge every time I see a new WoW expansion come out. The thrill of discovering new content and taking your endgame character back to clown-colored greens is the second-best feeling after clearing a 25-man with friends for the first time.

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      Oh I am right there with you, buddy. I can relate 100%. Fortunately, I'm in a place in my life where I have time to sink into WoW, but I can recognise how unhealthy it actually gets once I get...

      Oh I am right there with you, buddy. I can relate 100%. Fortunately, I'm in a place in my life where I have time to sink into WoW, but I can recognise how unhealthy it actually gets once I get invested into the game again. It feels great in the moment but it ruins any of my attempts to do anything else. MMOs and especially the well done ones are designed to keep you playing, so there's no shame in admitting it works on us a bit better than it might on other people.

      Whatever you're doing now, I'm sure it's better for you especially in the long run, than WoW could ever be. Keep it up, buddy :)

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    mithranqueen
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    I've been playing Wow since the end of TBC. Every expansion post-Cata went the same for me. I'll play consistently/gear up through the first raid - and quit again around the time raid #2 drops....

    I've been playing Wow since the end of TBC. Every expansion post-Cata went the same for me. I'll play consistently/gear up through the first raid - and quit again around the time raid #2 drops. Maybe BfA will be different.

    I was glad to see the artifact item for BfA won't be spec-exclusive. That was annoying.

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      You should try to get into Mythic+ this expansion. It is without a doubt the only thing that kept me playing Legion for as long as I did. Raiding is fun and all but it get stale pretty quickly....

      You should try to get into Mythic+ this expansion. It is without a doubt the only thing that kept me playing Legion for as long as I did. Raiding is fun and all but it get stale pretty quickly. Whereas Mythic+ is almost like 5-man speedrunning and it's awesome especially at the higher levels!

      1. mithranqueen
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        Yeah I'll give it a try. I did mess around with Mythic+ a bit early on in Legion but the guild I was in at the time lost interest after the first few weeks. It was pretty fun though.

        Yeah I'll give it a try. I did mess around with Mythic+ a bit early on in Legion but the guild I was in at the time lost interest after the first few weeks. It was pretty fun though.

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    Luca
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    I used to be a top 10 raider in WoW. Ran the guides for my spec on the two largest fan sites, had an active twitter, all that. Hell, some player from EU even copied my name, which was pretty...

    I used to be a top 10 raider in WoW. Ran the guides for my spec on the two largest fan sites, had an active twitter, all that. Hell, some player from EU even copied my name, which was pretty flattering.

    All that said, I quit the game at the beginning of Legion for various reasons. The legendary system and random ilvl upgrades added way too much RNG, and there was just too much to do. I realize this sounds odd, but when you have 4 toons to keep geared and up to date, what’s already exhausting becomes downright impossible if you have a life outside the game. I also fundamentally disagreed with the way the developers were designing certain classes (I was in contact with several devs, as were most other word top players)

    I considered coming back for BfA, but the loot changes are really turning me off. It seems like Blizzard is doing everything in their power to kill hardcore raiding, which is the only reason I played the game.

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      I can get behind what you're saying. They did a lot of things right with Legion but they also did a lot of things wrong. And alt treatment definitely wasn't one of the right ones. I realise they...

      I can get behind what you're saying. They did a lot of things right with Legion but they also did a lot of things wrong. And alt treatment definitely wasn't one of the right ones. I realise they tried to pad the existing content a bit to increase the play times for people to get them to sub for longer, I mean that's literally their business model, can't antagonise them too much for that, but it killed any desire to keep up with the game on any of my alts. And for a person like yourself I imagine in an environment where you had to have multiple geared ready-to-go alts, it must have been a nightmare.

      If it's not a huge secret, what role/class did you play? I play a healer myself so I'd love to talk state of the game with someone this high up in the PvE ladder :)

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        Luca
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        Yup - I've always hated alts. Hated gearing them, hated maintaining them, and disliked alt runs. It was tolerable before Legion, but Legion just killed it for me. I played a DK tank. You can...

        Yup - I've always hated alts. Hated gearing them, hated maintaining them, and disliked alt runs. It was tolerable before Legion, but Legion just killed it for me.

        I played a DK tank. You can probably find out who I was if you do a bit of digging.
        I wouldn't mind chatting, but do remember I haven't really played the game at all since Legion launch (though I did somewhat keep up with the state of it)

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          Ah I see! Did you much M+ in the time you had with Legion? What did you think of it? Also, I just read a bit ago that they are cutting down Tanks’ agro by like 70% which pretty much throws us back...

          Ah I see! Did you much M+ in the time you had with Legion? What did you think of it? Also, I just read a bit ago that they are cutting down Tanks’ agro by like 70% which pretty much throws us back to the way it used to be a while back. You think that’s a good thing? I feel like that’s going to make tanking a bit more fun again.

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            Luca
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            M+ was great, and if I wouldn't have been forced to do them non-stop on 3 characters, I would have probably kept playing just for that content. I love content where individual skill can really...

            M+ was great, and if I wouldn't have been forced to do them non-stop on 3 characters, I would have probably kept playing just for that content. I love content where individual skill can really shine, and M+ filled that niche.

            The threat thing I'm not sure about. Threat gameplay isn't fun. It forces DPS to throttle themselves, and there's only so much tanks can do. Though, based on the numbers, I doubt it would be that big of a deal. With how much damage tanks do, all this does is force some proper target-switching on ads during fights, which I like - the higher the skill cap, the better.

            Part of the reason I quit was the guy in charge of tank gameplay at Blizzard was an idiot. Not going to go much further about that, but we butt head pretty often over our differing philosophies.

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              Absolutely! As a healer I like not relying on another person to keep people alive while my cooldowns are down. I know if someone died from underhealing it's my fault and most of the time I will...

              Absolutely! As a healer I like not relying on another person to keep people alive while my cooldowns are down. I know if someone died from underhealing it's my fault and most of the time I will know exactly what I did wrong and how to fix it. Makes it that much easier to improve.

              And yea Tank balancing throughout Legion, and now still tbh, was a fucking joke. They couldn't properly balance tanks out so they just obliterated Guardians to the point they went from BiS to complete garbage in one patch (in M+ at least, with all the magical damage). And now from what I understand they are taking away all the magic damage reduction abilities from all of the tanks, which seems like a "oh we're done balancing this shit, just make all the defensives do the same thing" type of approach. You probably know more than I do about it though, is that what's happening?

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                Luca
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                Their philosophy going out of WoD and into Legion was to lower the DPS and self-sustainability of tanks. Obviously, they failed at this to some extent, but the overlying theme has been the same:...

                You probably know more than I do about it though, is that what's happening?

                Their philosophy going out of WoD and into Legion was to lower the DPS and self-sustainability of tanks. Obviously, they failed at this to some extent, but the overlying theme has been the same: lower the number of buttons, increase skill floor and lower skill cap.

                It's sad, but this is the direction the game is going in. Again, without naming names, the dev in charge of tank balance was staunchly against active mitigation checks because he couldn't do them. He found the checks on Mannoroth too difficult to do, and too punishing if you failed them. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as though these checks have become pretty rare in Legion.

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                  Hard for me to judge since I mainly play Healer for the most part. I can think of a couple in very high M+ but I don't think there are that many in raiding no. In Antorus literally almost every...

                  Hard for me to judge since I mainly play Healer for the most part. I can think of a couple in very high M+ but I don't think there are that many in raiding no. In Antorus literally almost every encounter has a Tank "stack swapping" mechanic which I found to be kinda dull more than anything.

                  But yeah it's sad that they are lowering skill cap. I don't see why they'd need to since surely they can find a way to lower the barrier to entry without sacrificing advanced mechanics but I guess that's too much to ask. Sort of makes sense when they are attempting to balance the game around the larger percent of the population who aren't exactly going to be looking for a challenge. The most recent example of this that kinda bothers me is the fact that, at least for now, you wont be allowed to swap gear mid M+ run. Which, unless they have a good reason for it, I don't think there's an official explanation, is absolutely mind-numbing. The only people who switched gear mid run in the first place were the players that pushed extremely high keys since at mid-high keys if you have enough ilvl your gear or legendaries weren't even an issue. I can't think of a legitimate reason for the change to save my life. Hopefully someone can, and this is not just some random out-of-the-blue lets-fuck-shit-up change.

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                  Eva
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                  I quit shortly after MoP because they trashed tank gameplay in WoD, in my opinion. Best decision I've ever made honestly.

                  I quit shortly after MoP because they trashed tank gameplay in WoD, in my opinion. Best decision I've ever made honestly.

                  1. Frost
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                    Legion had the best tank gameplay in the games lifespan, it just wasn't very balanced

                    Legion had the best tank gameplay in the games lifespan, it just wasn't very balanced

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      smoontjes
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      I agree with this point of view but put bluntly, I don't think they give a shit about your type of player. Hardcore raiders are like 0.1% of the player base, and they don't make much money off of...

      I agree with this point of view but put bluntly, I don't think they give a shit about your type of player. Hardcore raiders are like 0.1% of the player base, and they don't make much money off of that. They make money off of returning players, and the way they keep them logging back in every day is through these grinds. As a casual player, I did get somewhat frustrated about the legendary system, but other than that I was fine and feel Legion has been the best expansion so far.

      Kind of worried about BfA though, few things about it have impressed me to be honest. I'll still return of course, I always have to play through the storylines in the new zones! :)

      1. Luca
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        I completely agree with you. Blizzard had shown multiple times over my career that hardcore raiding was an afterthought, but I still powered through it despite the frustrations because I loved the...

        I completely agree with you. Blizzard had shown multiple times over my career that hardcore raiding was an afterthought, but I still powered through it despite the frustrations because I loved the game and the people I was playing with.

        BfA really does look underwhelming, even to me as an outsider now. And as someone who was an officer in my guild, the removal of master loot is probably the final nail in the coffin.

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    Preech
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    Not sure. Maybe if the PvP ever improved I would return. I originally quit because I wasn't a raider and I purely did PvP and in Cataclysm there wasn't much change to the PvP system so I finally...

    Not sure. Maybe if the PvP ever improved I would return. I originally quit because I wasn't a raider and I purely did PvP and in Cataclysm there wasn't much change to the PvP system so I finally quit and never came back.

    I don't know. I loved that game for how the combat used to play out. But it was always an afterthought when compared to the raiding and the raiding rewards. If they ever figured out how to give PvP rewards as much prestige as PvE I might return someday.

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      mmmm I wouldn't get my hopes up but they are reworking PvP talents and making world pvp a lot more fun by letting you basically opt in to be put on the same "server" as other people who want to do...

      mmmm I wouldn't get my hopes up but they are reworking PvP talents and making world pvp a lot more fun by letting you basically opt in to be put on the same "server" as other people who want to do it. There should be a bunch of new ways to PvP and new rewards and stuff so I'd say read up on some of they stuff they are doing for BfA. I don't PvP much anymore but it sounds like they are making some exciting changes!

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      1. Preech
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        If so, I may someday return. The whole fun of the game for me revolved around PvP and Arenas. I loved that part of the game.

        If so, I may someday return. The whole fun of the game for me revolved around PvP and Arenas. I loved that part of the game.