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Warcraft III: Reforged—the re-creation of Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne—is now available worldwide

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  1. [6]
    Bullmaestro
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    It looks like they did an impressive job with remastering the game, and I do have fond memories of playing WarCraft III as a teenager and heavily investing time into many of the custom maps like...

    It looks like they did an impressive job with remastering the game, and I do have fond memories of playing WarCraft III as a teenager and heavily investing time into many of the custom maps like Footman Frenzy. I was never that big on playing WC3 competitively and for me my first foray into competitive RTS was Starcraft 2 many years later.

    But I'm not gonna pick this one up because it's Blizzard.

    I've been boycotting the company for various reasons ever since October and to my credit, I have not touched a single Blizzard game since. For the past decade I've been disillusioned with how they've increasingly become Activision's lapdog, cut back their customer support, automated their report systems for the worse, killed off the grassroots esports circuits that formed around their own games, shovelled heavy amounts of MTX into World of Warcraft, dumbed down WoW heavily, screwed over Heroes of the Storm players, etc. If that was all the stuff that bothered me about Blizzard then WoW Classic would have been the one thing still keeping my faith in the publisher.

    The last straw for me was the Hearthstone Grandmasters ruling. Blizzard handled that incident, the heavy backlash that came from their unfair punishment of Blitzchung, and their half assed non-apology in such a disgraceful manner that it's made me swear off of the company.

    Many friends I know went even further than I did, by actually submitting data deletion requests and excommunicating people who still played Blizzard games.

    What actually shocks me whenever I bring this up on any other site (MMO Champion, Reddit, etc) is the amount of fanboys that will still defend Blizzard to the hilt.

    11 votes
    1. [2]
      undu
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      It's not, it's a complete and utter disaster. The original Warcraft 3 has been replaced with Reforged while removing features that people have complained about their games since Starcraft 2. And...

      It looks like they did an impressive job with remastering the game

      It's not, it's a complete and utter disaster. The original Warcraft 3 has been replaced with Reforged while removing features that people have complained about their games since Starcraft 2. And that's just the beginning of how it's being mishandled, read https://tildes.net/~games/lch/warcraft_iii_reforged_the_re_creation_of_warcraft_iii_reign_of_chaos_and_warcraft_iii_the_frozen#comment-4imv for more information

      9 votes
      1. moonbathers
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        It boggles my mind that they release games with missing features like this.

        It boggles my mind that they release games with missing features like this.

        1 vote
    2. [2]
      VoidOutput
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      I'm curious about the boycott, do you think many people stopped playing Hearthstone as well? I have a poor knowledge of Blizzard's financials but isn't that their cash cow?

      I'm curious about the boycott, do you think many people stopped playing Hearthstone as well? I have a poor knowledge of Blizzard's financials but isn't that their cash cow?

      3 votes
      1. Deimos
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        This drama started in October, and Activision Blizzard hasn't released their Q4 2019 financials yet, so we don't really know if there's been any significant effect. I'm not sure if we'll even be...

        This drama started in October, and Activision Blizzard hasn't released their Q4 2019 financials yet, so we don't really know if there's been any significant effect. I'm not sure if we'll even be able to tell after they do release them, it probably depends exactly how they report their revenue or if they say anything on the investor conference call.

        2 votes
    3. moonbathers
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      Good for you. I've looked at some screenshots to see how the updated Night Elves look because I stan them, but I've mostly boycotted them too. I've got almost 7000 games of Starcraft 2 over the...

      Good for you. I've looked at some screenshots to see how the updated Night Elves look because I stan them, but I've mostly boycotted them too. I've got almost 7000 games of Starcraft 2 over the last decade but uninstalled it after the Blitzchung ruling and haven't touched it since. I still play Brood War and Diablo 2 sometimes, but my justification is that Blizzard isn't making money off of those and aren't seeing any engagement metrics. In the grand scheme of things boycotts like these might not be a huge deal, but it's also not a huge sacrifice for us to make and we might as well do it.

      2 votes
  2. Rez
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    This has been a complete disaster so far in my WC3 group, modders are incensed too and the update broke my maps yet again. It's not something you can just ignore either, the launch has actively...

    This has been a complete disaster so far in my WC3 group, modders are incensed too and the update broke my maps yet again. It's not something you can just ignore either, the launch has actively made WC3 worse in many aspects from community to editing, e.g. the loss of clans, however temporary that proves to be. The only plus so far is the new player traffic. If they don't quickly fix the game to bring back parity, Blizzard may very well permanently drive away many of the players that had stuck around through the years. Even the huge file size update is prohibitive for many third world players, of which there are quite many.

    6 votes
  3. vorotato
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    Tried to log in and play yesterday but the servers were slammed, wasn't even able to play a 1v1 against cpu so, not looking great.

    Tried to log in and play yesterday but the servers were slammed, wasn't even able to play a 1v1 against cpu so, not looking great.

    5 votes
  4. Grzmot
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    I won't be picking this up cause the remaster is pretty bad, and they actually merged those updates into the original client, which is terrible. My current plan is to block Warcraft 3 in my...

    I won't be picking this up cause the remaster is pretty bad, and they actually merged those updates into the original client, which is terrible. My current plan is to block Warcraft 3 in my firewall, as I have an installation separate of Battle.net. I only play solo anyway, and I'm fine with that.

    3 votes
  5. 3d12
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    I went into Reforged hoping for one thing, and only one thing: The "steal control group" hotkeys from SC2. That didn't even get implemented. To be honest, I'd probably have been happier with an...

    I went into Reforged hoping for one thing, and only one thing: The "steal control group" hotkeys from SC2.

    That didn't even get implemented. To be honest, I'd probably have been happier with an implementation of WC3 in the SC2 engine than what we got, especially since there's no roadmap in play of what we can expect, and when.

    2 votes
  6. bleem
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    I was lucky enough to get a refund on my spoils of war edition i pre-ordered months ago. Just luck of the draw on GMs I guess. Was pretty disappointed with the missing content and the low frame...

    I was lucky enough to get a refund on my spoils of war edition i pre-ordered months ago. Just luck of the draw on GMs I guess.

    Was pretty disappointed with the missing content and the low frame rate animations

    1 vote