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Deleting your Facebook account forfeits Oculus VR games you already paid for

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    1. nothis
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      Fortunately, I don't see a lot of people genuinely pulling the "then don't be toxic" line. Amazingly, it seems they found a way to actually get the entire community against them, even some...

      Fortunately, I don't see a lot of people genuinely pulling the "then don't be toxic" line. Amazingly, it seems they found a way to actually get the entire community against them, even some hardcore Oculus believers.

      6 votes
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    JXM
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    Every time I see a story like this, it makes me worried about just how much of our digital lives so few companies control. Lose access to your Google account and you can lose everything. Family...

    Every time I see a story like this, it makes me worried about just how much of our digital lives so few companies control.

    Lose access to your Google account and you can lose everything. Family photos, emails, files, music, movies and every other aspect of your digital life.

    Having everything tied to one overarching account might sound convenient, but it's extremely dangerous too.

    23 votes
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      Greg
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      A good first step is to take a regular snapshot of all that personal data using Google Takeout. It'll give you a copy of the photos, documents, emails, and everything else that's irreplaceable....

      A good first step is to take a regular snapshot of all that personal data using Google Takeout. It'll give you a copy of the photos, documents, emails, and everything else that's irreplaceable.

      [Edit] Fixed markdown.

      11 votes
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        ali
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        Im starting to move away from google right now (used gmail since it’s been released pretty much) And i want to avoid being one of those people that has lost access to so many accounts. I’m slowly...

        Im starting to move away from google right now (used gmail since it’s been released pretty much)
        And i want to avoid being one of those people that has lost access to so many accounts. I’m slowly moving accounts to name@(owntld).con
        So i am always vendor independent

        9 votes
        1. Greg
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          That's 100% the long-term solution, and what I'd advocate for everyone to aim for. I like to suggest takeout as an immediate option because it's very significant payoff for a couple of clicks,...

          That's 100% the long-term solution, and what I'd advocate for everyone to aim for. I like to suggest takeout as an immediate option because it's very significant payoff for a couple of clicks, requires no technical knowledge, and is relatively poorly known about.

          8 votes
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          1. ali
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            instead of google photos? I am not sure tbh... I guess you could either have a home cloud or use some cloud server and encrypt the files locally with veracrypt... I also know of cryptomator, but I...

            instead of google photos? I am not sure tbh... I guess you could either have a home cloud or use some cloud server and encrypt the files locally with veracrypt... I also know of cryptomator, but I never used it myself

            4 votes
          2. wirelyre
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            I have a lot of audio recordings and I've been uploading them to Amazon Glacier by hand (putting a bunch together into a ZIP file and uploading that). It's a real pain. I started making a...

            I have a lot of audio recordings and I've been uploading them to Amazon Glacier by hand (putting a bunch together into a ZIP file and uploading that). It's a real pain. I started making a command-line utility to manage it, but I got distracted by making an encrypted dual ZIP-and-random-access file format and now it's on my procrastination list.

            Right now I'm at 50GiB = 0.17 USD per month — I don't know if that rate is doable for you, but it's certainly a lot safer for me than my own backup HDD.

            4 votes
          3. kfwyre
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            Fastmail is awesome! I use Jottacloud for photos.

            Fastmail is awesome! I use Jottacloud for photos.

            1 vote
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    cstby
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    Facebook's approach is sad and disappointing. I deactivated my Facebook account a few years ago not because of privacy or to make a political statement but rather simply because it was addictive...

    Facebook's approach is sad and disappointing.

    I deactivated my Facebook account a few years ago not because of privacy or to make a political statement but rather simply because it was addictive and made me feel terrible. I don't even suffer from mental health issues, but removing facebook from my life has such a positive impact and allowed me to focus on the relationships that are important to me.

    I bought an oculus quest soon after it came out and I love it. I'm a huge fan of VR gaming because of it. I didn't mind that it was owned by Facebook either.

    I will not be purchasing the Oculus Quest 2 nor will I purchase anything else from the Oculus online store. I'll use the device as long as I can, and when I eventually upgrade to a non-oculus headset, I'll give it to someone who had a Facebook account.

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    1. mrbig
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      I still have a Facebook account for family reasons but I barely use it anymore and my life is much better as a result. I don’t need to see a never ending collage of other people’s highlights every...

      I still have a Facebook account for family reasons but I barely use it anymore and my life is much better as a result. I don’t need to see a never ending collage of other people’s highlights every day, I feel shitty enough already.

      5 votes
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    Icarus
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    I just cannot see how people can be okay with this enough to spend $300-$400 on their hardware. In related news though, a Quest 2 jailbreak is getting close to release. Slightly off-topic, but my...

    I just cannot see how people can be okay with this enough to spend $300-$400 on their hardware. In related news though, a Quest 2 jailbreak is getting close to release.

    Slightly off-topic, but my comedy class in VR is deadset on using Facebook to communicate class events. I'm the oddball, single hold-out refusing to give Facebook my ID to create an account for access. On the happenchance someone would know, where might someone procure an old Facebook account that is being sold for people like me? If I buy an old one, I'm hoping I can use it for at least a month to access class activities before getting banned.

    Edit: Looks like I wasn't prompted to verify my identification...yet. Using a burner email, VPN, and incognito mode to sign up. Let's see how long this lasts.

    10 votes
    1. ali
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      God I hate that Facebook is the company that’s pushing VR at the moment. The quest 2 would be amazing if it was backed by any other company

      God I hate that Facebook is the company that’s pushing VR at the moment. The quest 2 would be amazing if it was backed by any other company

      5 votes
  5. Greg
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    Related discussion here. This has been on my mind for the last few days, and I think one of the (many) major issues is Facebook trying to blend two fundamentally different account purposes. A...

    Related discussion here.

    This has been on my mind for the last few days, and I think one of the (many) major issues is Facebook trying to blend two fundamentally different account purposes.

    A store purchase account only needs bare bones information - email address, payment info, nothing more. There's no scope to ban it (short of payment fraud), no risk of paid items being lost, no complexity to worry about. A public social media profile is the absolute polar opposite of this, carrying huge amounts of baggage, and brings an enormous list of downsides with effectively no upside. Of course users are going to be pissed when they have to give a whole host of real-world info just to make a purchase. Of course they're going to be fucking furious when scrubbing their old highschool photos off the internet would also erase hundreds of dollars of games.

    Even from Facebook's own perspective, I don't see the benefit. Why not just loosely link the accounts for data mining, rather than intimately tying them together on the user side?

    [Edit] Reading this back, perhaps I answered my own question. Forcibly tying purchases to a Facebook account is an effective way to ensure that the user never decides to delete it.

    9 votes