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Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of February 21

This thread is posted weekly, and is intended as a place for more-casual discussion of the coronavirus and questions/updates that may not warrant their own dedicated topics. Tell us about what the situation is like where you live!

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  1. skybrian
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    Based on the Washington Post statistics page, US cases are down another 40% to 31 per 100,000 (7 day average). The last time they were this low was mid-July. Cases are falling in all states except...

    Based on the Washington Post statistics page, US cases are down another 40% to 31 per 100,000 (7 day average). The last time they were this low was mid-July.

    Cases are falling in all states except Maine, which is still weird. (I assume it's still reporting backlog. Their hospitalizations are average.) New York (an eastern state where the Omicron wave was early) is at 16/100k, which is where they were in August. California doesn't report any numbers on weekends but they're at 33/100k, about average.

    US hospitalizations are at 18 per 100,000, down 22% and about where they were in December. Both New York and California are about average, oddly enough.

    The death rate lags hospitalizations and cases and hasn't improved much yet. The US is down 10% to 2215 per day, which is still very high.

    Seems like the Omicron wave is close to over in the US as far as the risk of infection is concerned, and hospitals are no longer overloaded, but for those who became sick, the consequences aren't over yet. Statistically speaking, that is.

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    eladnarra
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    Looks like the CDC is going to change their masking recommendations to be based on hospitalization rates more than cases. Nice for people who are low risk, I guess. Sucks for the rest of us,...

    Looks like the CDC is going to change their masking recommendations to be based on hospitalization rates more than cases. Nice for people who are low risk, I guess. Sucks for the rest of us, including folks who think they're low risk but aren't.

    [Realistically it won't change much for me because I'm in Florida and no one masks here anyway, but if they drop the requirement for airplanes or doctor offices, I won't be able to travel for medical appointments any time soon.]

    8 votes
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      Omnicrola
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      Honestly, if we just instituted mandatory masking requirements for all doctor's offices forever, I'd be 100% on board with that.

      Honestly, if we just instituted mandatory masking requirements for all doctor's offices forever, I'd be 100% on board with that.

      10 votes
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        MimicSquid
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        Right? More than half of everyone there is present because they're sick. Why wouldn't you want to mask up?

        Right? More than half of everyone there is present because they're sick. Why wouldn't you want to mask up?

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        1. Omnicrola
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          Not to mention the people who work in that office every day. Imagine this version of that recruiter pitch:

          Not to mention the people who work in that office every day. Imagine this version of that recruiter pitch:

          Hey, how would you like to work a job where you're regularly exposed to a wide variety of pathogens and diseases every day, where PPE is optional for both you and the general public? Sounds great? Sign here.

          5 votes
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      chrysanth
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      The requirement to mask on flights is set to expire March 18. Very possible they might not renew it. I was hoping to move out of my current place soon, might try to aim for before then while it's...

      The requirement to mask on flights is set to expire March 18. Very possible they might not renew it. I was hoping to move out of my current place soon, might try to aim for before then while it's safest. But yeah, I agree the new recommendations are super dangerous.

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      1. eladnarra
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        sighs I'd already accepted giving up travel "for pleasure" for the foreseeable future, but it really sucks when specialists in your illnesses are all at least 7 hours away by car, if not across...

        sighs

        I'd already accepted giving up travel "for pleasure" for the foreseeable future, but it really sucks when specialists in your illnesses are all at least 7 hours away by car, if not across the country. I guess I may have some multi-day road trips in my future, to the detriment of my health.

        5 votes
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    skybrian
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    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started. (Washington Post) [...]

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started. (Washington Post)

    [In early December], covid hospitalizations in New Hampshire were at a record high. The small community hospital Caple leads was full, its employees exhausted.

    As soon as Caple arrived inside, a colleague told her that something strange was happening. Calls were flooding into the switchboard, and senior staff members were receiving a flurry of voice messages and emails to their work accounts.

    The callers were impassioned and vehement, demanding that the hospital begin treating a covid patient in its care with ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug. As the day went on, the volume of calls grew so large that the hospital shut down its main number.

    [...]

    On Dec. 17, a note with a bomb threat was found at building near the main hospital that houses practices such as pediatrics, police said. Dale Girard, a Claremont native who has provided the hospital with ambulance services for more than 30 years, said he cannot recall another time when a bomb threat targeted the hospital.

    All employees and patients who could be sent home were evacuated. The roads to the hospital were blocked off by members of the county sheriff’s department as bomb-sniffing dogs roamed the premises, starting with the emergency room. As the search unfolded, the locked-down hospital was eerily quiet. No device was found.

    Mark Chase, the chief of police in Claremont, said the authorities currently have no information connecting the bomb threat to the pressure campaign. A criminal investigation based on physical evidence collected on the scene is ongoing, Chase said.

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    1. [2]
      cfabbro
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      88 = Heil Hitler, for anyone who doesn't know. It's one of the most common white supremacist symbols and dogwhistles out there. Edit: Yep. Sure enough, they're blatantly antisemitic QAnon nuts who...

      That morning was only the beginning. The calls and emails — mobilized by a group calling itself the Truth Seekers 88

      88 = Heil Hitler, for anyone who doesn't know. It's one of the most common white supremacist symbols and dogwhistles out there.

      Edit: Yep. Sure enough, they're blatantly antisemitic QAnon nuts who moved to Rumble after getting banned from YouTube last month.

      Sifting through a bunch of their recent videos on Rumble was equal parts sad and scary. :( But at least their viewership has thankfully plummeted since the YouTube ban, where they had 29-70k views per video compared to the 2-10k they get on Rumble now. Deplatforming works!

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      1. HotPants
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        It's ironic that a QAnon influencer got banned for having a pedo on his show. It's scary that people trust social media over the judicial system (as well as practically all other experts.)

        getting banned from YouTube last month.

        It's ironic that a QAnon influencer got banned for having a pedo on his show.

        It's scary that people trust social media over the judicial system (as well as practically all other experts.)

        QAnon influencer Mike Penny's channel was removed from the video-sharing platform earlier this week for violating its policy

        Penny allowed unrepentant pedophile David Todeschini, 71, onto his 28,800-subscriber-strong channel on at least five occasions between December 1 and January 18.

        QAnon followers share the unfounded belief that a global cabal network of cannibalistic pedophiles operates an interconnected network of politicians, Hollywood stars and wealthy businessmen.

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    skybrian
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    Your Local Epidemiologist has a helpful summary of the controversy about what happened in Denmark and the scientific evidence regarding the BA.2 variant.

    Your Local Epidemiologist has a helpful summary of the controversy about what happened in Denmark and the scientific evidence regarding the BA.2 variant.

    BA.2 is something to keep an eye on, but I’m not too concerned. I’m more concerned about another variant popping out of nowhere like Omicron did.

    3 votes
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      chrysanth
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      YLE is alright but that's a rather frustrating quote you pulled here, since Omicron definitely did not "pop out of nowhere" (at least for folks in the United States). We knew weeks in advance that...

      YLE is alright but that's a rather frustrating quote you pulled here, since Omicron definitely did not "pop out of nowhere" (at least for folks in the United States). We knew weeks in advance that it was coming. This just feels like it runs cover for when Harris made similar remarks ("We didn't see Omicron coming") when everyone who was paying attention saw it coming from miles away. Unfortunate that she isn't critical of that framing at all.

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        skybrian
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        It's framed in a binary way and that's unfortunate, but I'm inclined to be charitable about what she meant. To be more clear, we had a few weeks of warning, but not more than that. Similarly, we...

        It's framed in a binary way and that's unfortunate, but I'm inclined to be charitable about what she meant. To be more clear, we had a few weeks of warning, but not more than that. Similarly, we can't know now whether there might be another wave in two months. Plans made that far ahead might need to be changed.

        I think it's important to be prepared for such possibilities, but at the same time enjoy life during the lull, which might last a long time.

        I would bet against another wave but I think having the option to change plans if needed is still valuable.

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        1. chrysanth
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          I dunno, I think it's fair to say another wave is likely enough that we ought to be preparing for it now, but you're right that no one knows exactly what that timeline will be like.

          I dunno, I think it's fair to say another wave is likely enough that we ought to be preparing for it now, but you're right that no one knows exactly what that timeline will be like.

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