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Anyone arriving in Australia from overseas will to be forced to self-isolate for 14 days

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    vakieh
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    Also Known As: Our fucking useless leader got shown up by our rival off to the east and had to copy them immediately. Meanwhile he is also copying his good mate Trump's plan to breach health...

    Also Known As: Our fucking useless leader got shown up by our rival off to the east and had to copy them immediately.

    Meanwhile he is also copying his good mate Trump's plan to breach health guidelines by not self-isolating himself after being exposed to a confirmed case.

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      cfabbro
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      Do as I say, not as I do! Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau's wife Sophie tested positive so he is in self-isolation for the next 14 days. Is he the only head of state to have actually followed the...

      Do as I say, not as I do!

      Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau's wife Sophie tested positive so he is in self-isolation for the next 14 days. Is he the only head of state to have actually followed the recommendation after a potential exposure?

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      Algernon_Asimov
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      While I have previously criticised Scott Morrison for not self-isolating, I saw an interview with Professor Brendan Murphy on 'Insiders' this morning. He made it clear that Peter Dutton was only...

      Meanwhile he is also copying his good mate Trump's plan to breach health guidelines by not self-isolating himself after being exposed to a confirmed case.

      While I have previously criticised Scott Morrison for not self-isolating, I saw an interview with Professor Brendan Murphy on 'Insiders' this morning. He made it clear that Peter Dutton was only contagious during the 24 hours before he showed symptoms on Friday morning. The cabinet meeting was on Tuesday. Peter Van Onselen (appearing on the show) said that the WHO guidelines say people are contagious for 48 hours prior to symptoms appearing, but it was pointed out to him that the cabinet meeting was still before that 48-hour window.

      In short, there was no medical need for Scott Morrison to self-isolate.

      It would have been a good message to send to the public if he had voluntarily self-isolated, but he didn't have to.

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        vakieh
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        Brendan Murphy is a political stooge who is acting either ignorantly or maliciously. There is currently no confirmed knowledge of when and how contagious covid-19 is - only suspicions - so making...

        Brendan Murphy is a political stooge who is acting either ignorantly or maliciously. There is currently no confirmed knowledge of when and how contagious covid-19 is - only suspicions - so making assurances like that is dangerous at best, criminal at worst.

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          Algernon_Asimov
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          Sorry, but I don't know how to respond to conspiracy theories, so I'll back away now.

          Brendan Murphy is a political stooge who is acting either ignorantly or maliciously.

          Sorry, but I don't know how to respond to conspiracy theories, so I'll back away now.

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            vakieh
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            It's not a theory, he knows where his golden parachute is landing.
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              cfabbro
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              Sorry, but what does that have to do with anything you previously said? I'm Canadian so don't quite understand what him being appointed Secretary of the Department of Health supposedly proves.

              Sorry, but what does that have to do with anything you previously said? I'm Canadian so don't quite understand what him being appointed Secretary of the Department of Health supposedly proves.

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                vakieh
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                He's going from what is supposed to be a merit position to an essentially government position. I would make a guess the closest analogy would be the US Surgeon General becoming the Secretary of...

                He's going from what is supposed to be a merit position to an essentially government position. I would make a guess the closest analogy would be the US Surgeon General becoming the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The Chief Medical Officer persists across incumbent political parties, for about 25 years now the Secretary does not.

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                  cfabbro
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                  Okay, but what does him getting appointed to a longer-term position prove? I still don't see the connection between that and your claims that he is "acting either ignorantly or maliciously" and...

                  Okay, but what does him getting appointed to a longer-term position prove? I still don't see the connection between that and your claims that he is "acting either ignorantly or maliciously" and "making assurances like that is dangerous at best, criminal at worst" when his supposed advice to your PM seems to be based on the WHO recommended guidelines.

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                    vakieh
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                    Because his advice throughout this crisis has been in lockstep with the PM, disagreeing with WHO all over the place (even on the TV spot in question he firmly said 24 hours when WHO says 48 hours...

                    Because his advice throughout this crisis has been in lockstep with the PM, disagreeing with WHO all over the place (even on the TV spot in question he firmly said 24 hours when WHO says 48 hours but caveats literally everything with 'WHO is assessing ongoing research'). The longer term position he is being appointed to as I said is a political position rather than a medical one.

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                    1. cfabbro
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                      Fair enough, that does seem like rather questionable behavior. Thanks for the insight!

                      Fair enough, that does seem like rather questionable behavior. Thanks for the insight!