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Senate Democrats block mammoth coronavirus stimulus package

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  1. [3]
    Macil
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    This article really worked to avoid mentioning what the Democrats' problems with the bill were. I saw previous articles suggesting that the Republicans were trying to put anti-abortion stuff into...

    This article really worked to avoid mentioning what the Democrats' problems with the bill were.

    I saw previous articles suggesting that the Republicans were trying to put anti-abortion stuff into the bill, so I first assumed the issue now was just that and the article was deliberately avoiding talking about that to unfairly demonize the Democrats. But then I googled more for information about the bill (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/18/refusal-pelosi-consider-universal-cash-payments-response-coronavirus-pandemic) and now I'm just baffled by what's going on.

    16 votes
    1. [2]
      vivaria
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      https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/22/vast-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-limbo-crunch-times-arrives-capitol-hill/ This seems like a more up to date source? (March 22 vs. March 18)

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/22/vast-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-limbo-crunch-times-arrives-capitol-hill/

      A major sticking point is a $500 billion pool of money for loans and loan guarantees that Republicans want to create, which some Democrats are labeling a “slush fund” because the Treasury Department would have broad discretion over who receives the money. There is little precedent for a program with a similar size and scope.

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      The biggest subset of this $500 billion fund would be $425 billion in loans and loan guarantees meant to rescue “eligible businesses, states or municipalities.” This part of the bill has attracted particular attention from Democrats, some of whom have alleged it would give the Treasury Department broad sway to direct funds to specific companies that have appealed to the White House. Trump has already talked about how he wants to help the cruise industry and the hotel industry, but dozens of other industries have pleaded for assistance as well. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) called the bucket of money a “slush fund to boost favored companies and corporate executives - while they continue to pull down huge paychecks and fire their workers."

      This seems like a more up to date source? (March 22 vs. March 18)

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      1. NaraVara
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        It's extra fun because the Supreme Court seems to be really wishy-washy in their opinion on what allowable amounts of of delegation of powers are. From the perspective of strict, legal logic it...

        There is little precedent for a program with a similar size and scope.

        It's extra fun because the Supreme Court seems to be really wishy-washy in their opinion on what allowable amounts of of delegation of powers are. From the perspective of strict, legal logic it seems like their track record on these cases is completely arbitrary. But if you consider, instead, that any case where more delegation means looting the treasury on behalf of big corporations then it's good and any case where it means spending on behalf of people or workers or stricter regulations then it's bad then it makes perfect sense.

        4 votes
  2. [3]
    Deimos
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    The vote failed again today, completely on party lines except for Senator Doug Jones of Alabama who was the only Democrat to vote in favor.

    The vote failed again today, completely on party lines except for Senator Doug Jones of Alabama who was the only Democrat to vote in favor.

    3 votes
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      NaraVara
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      Even Joe Manchin had some pretty unambiguous words about the Republican bill.

      The vote failed again today

      Even Joe Manchin had some pretty unambiguous words about the Republican bill.

      “It’s ridiculous. And if they think we’re going to stand by and let them play with a slush fund with all the billionaires and millionaires in the world, they’re wrong," Manchin said. "This is one time they’re not going to screw the average person – and a worker’s going to get a fair shake."

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  3. vorotato
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    "stimulus package" aka wholesale robbing of your working man's taxes by the wealthiest people in this country.

    "stimulus package" aka wholesale robbing of your working man's taxes by the wealthiest people in this country.