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Blame game escalates between US and China over coronavirus disinformation

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    Deimos
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    Related: G-7 failed to agree on statement after U.S. insisted on calling coronavirus outbreak ‘Wuhan virus’
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    1. pvik
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      I am at a loss at this statement; given the abysmal way the US government has handled the outbreak within US.

      Pompeo, in his remarks on Wednesday, doubled down on his criticism of Beijing.

      “We tried, you’ll remember, from the opening days to get our scientists, our experts on the ground there so that we could begin to assist in the global response to what began there in China, but we weren’t able to do that. The Chinese Communist Party wouldn’t permit that to happen,” he said.

      I am at a loss at this statement; given the abysmal way the US government has handled the outbreak within US.

      7 votes
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    sp00ky
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    Propaganda has always been part of geopolitics, and “blame” for the COVID-19 pandemic will be no exception. New to the game though is extension of China’s normally inward-facing propaganda to...

    Propaganda has always been part of geopolitics, and “blame” for the COVID-19 pandemic will be no exception. New to the game though is extension of China’s normally inward-facing propaganda to rewrite reality for the rest of the world. The current effort is to deny the Wuhan origin of COVID-19 with a fiction that says it was created by the U.S. and planted in Wuhan, thereby absolving Xi Jinping’s government from any blame for initial mishandling of the outbreak.

    It will be an interesting forecast for future events if news media from around the world can all be convinced to buy the story from China’s propaganda department.

    Free and independent journalism is absolutely critical for the health of free society, and this is a new chapter in which we should all raise awareness about the the threats it faces.

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    1. skybrian
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      It seems to me that this is a story about failing propaganda campaigns. The campaigns have become the story. There doesn't seem to be any real dispute or much interest in how exactly the virus...

      It seems to me that this is a story about failing propaganda campaigns. The campaigns have become the story. There doesn't seem to be any real dispute or much interest in how exactly the virus originated? It's far too late to hide anything.

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    2. Rez
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      Media won't necessarily need to "buy" the story, just let it hang there in the air. As the U.S. has retreated diplomatically, China has been there for many countries with leagues of diplomats and...

      Media won't necessarily need to "buy" the story, just let it hang there in the air. As the U.S. has retreated diplomatically, China has been there for many countries with leagues of diplomats and economic development packages. People naturally self-censor in such circumstances, or go along with the fact that they can't be certain so it might as well be a wash and not a point of contention.

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    cwagner
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    Personally my hope would be that most of the media ignores the propaganda of both these playground bullies.

    Personally my hope would be that most of the media ignores the propaganda of both these playground bullies.

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      sp00ky
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      It would be great if we could rely on media to ignore or cut through the propaganda, but that seems very unlikely (for most mainstream news organizations). Instead, we the people need to leverage...

      It would be great if we could rely on media to ignore or cut through the propaganda, but that seems very unlikely (for most mainstream news organizations). Instead, we the people need to leverage user-generated content media like Tildes to call out intentionally-biased news.

      While Trump's disinformation campaign has been a regular topic of Tildes discussions, there has been no time like this COVID-19 pandemic to highlight the clear and present danger of the assault on real news. China's CCP suppressed news about the initial outbreak, delaying a chance to get out in front of it; and Trump's Whitehouse called it a hoax and ignited a spread of bad medical advice that still ripples around today (chloroquine poisoning anyone?).

      Sorry if I sound alarmist or sensationalistic, but I believe this is a big deal. Be vigilant, and study the both the facts and sources, and how they are reconfigured by mainstream news. Don't expect these propaganda and disinformation campaigns to be ignored by the media. The mainstream news parroting government and corporate propaganda is not on your side.

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      1. cwagner
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        Eh, here the reporting about Trump was more along the usual line of "that dude did something no one sane understands again, here’s what he did".

        Eh, here the reporting about Trump was more along the usual line of "that dude did something no one sane understands again, here’s what he did".

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  4. vorotato
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    It's rather hard to say China is to fault when the people who could have responded to it were fired and the current US president is STILL trying to get people to go outside.

    It's rather hard to say China is to fault when the people who could have responded to it were fired and the current US president is STILL trying to get people to go outside.

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