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COVID-19 and China’s Marshall Plan. Fake aid and fake news

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    determinism
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    Weird personification in the first section. "He" is china? Xi? The author never explicitly names Xi before the pronouns. A good chunk of the reporting that the author refers to as being leaked by...

    He showed this during the riots in Hong Kong, turning off the Internet in the surrounding provinces just in case. So if the world received information about the virus in China, it was a planned strategy. To show numbers not too low — to scare the world and not too high — to show that China has it under control.

    Weird personification in the first section. "He" is china? Xi? The author never explicitly names Xi before the pronouns.

    The first stage of Chinese activities was to show the whole world an epidemic at home. It was about causing fear, which is why the reports sent were drastic. We were bombarded with images of medical personnel in almost space suits. We also saw crowds of people in space costumes decontaminating streets and buildings, and even specialized vehicles spraying something along the roads.

    A good chunk of the reporting that the author refers to as being leaked by the CPC I saw in articles published by Falun Gong media groups - including claims that the Chinese government designed the virus. Are they controlled opposition or are they the batshit cult that I've always understood them to be?

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    1. sp00ky
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      Funny how that happens when you're not only the party secretary, president and chairman of the military, but you've eliminated all dissenting voices and enshrined your own philosophy in the...

      Weird personification in the first section. "He" is china? Xi?

      Funny how that happens when you're not only the party secretary, president and chairman of the military, but you've eliminated all dissenting voices and enshrined your own philosophy in the constitution. While Donald Trump would certainly love to be in that position, the U.S. still has a chance to avoid driving off that cliff -- hopefully.

      Regardless, while the CCP plays a game where criticism of the Party is re-labeled as criticism of China or of the Chinese people. It's a nice internal propaganda trick, don't you think? But this article is describing actions of the Chinese government, not the people.

      7 votes
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    sp00ky
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    Here’s another perspective on Chinese geopolitical strategy unfolding amidst the drama of the coronavirus pandemic. Let no good disaster go to waste. I know my cynicism about the CCP war on...

    Here’s another perspective on Chinese geopolitical strategy unfolding amidst the drama of the coronavirus pandemic. Let no good disaster go to waste.

    I know my cynicism about the CCP war on liberal democracy is not popular on Tldes. Still I hope the article will be insightful for those of you who think there is still a window of opportunity for people to right the listing ship of democracy.

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    1. Odysseus
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      I'm not sure I agree with this idea that the Chinese deliberately caused panic and fear, as most of the fear and panic comes from the findings and predictions of our own experts. I do agree that...

      I'm not sure I agree with this idea that the Chinese deliberately caused panic and fear, as most of the fear and panic comes from the findings and predictions of our own experts. I do agree that the CCP is almost certainly capitalizing on the disaster. Being an authoritarian state allowed them to get the disease relatively under control while at the same time effectively control the narrative that they've defeated the virus. Their production capacity and early expertise on dealing with this particular virus also allows them to play a key role in helping others recover from this disaster, especially at a time when the United States is reluctant to play any real leadership role on the global stage. Their opacity limits their ability to lead, but their aid really helps their standing in the world for a disaster which really should have wrecked beijing's credibility.

      8 votes
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    rkcr
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    Pretty sure this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory interpretation of current events. I do believe that China will try to make the best of the situation (because who wouldn't), but a lot of...

    Pretty sure this is nothing more than a conspiracy theory interpretation of current events. I do believe that China will try to make the best of the situation (because who wouldn't), but a lot of this article is seriously reaching.

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    1. sp00ky
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      I won't debate that there is some conspiracy-theory to it, as there is in most current news. But to say this is mostly conspiracy theory is just ignoring the facts. Take a look at this Twitter...

      I won't debate that there is some conspiracy-theory to it, as there is in most current news. But to say this is mostly conspiracy theory is just ignoring the facts. Take a look at this Twitter post, for example: https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823?lang=en And take a look at increasing reports with clear evidence that the CCP has greatly misreported the number of dead in Wuhan.

      And if you think the CCP isn't twisting this pandemic for political and geopolitical gain, then you vastly underestimate the CCP.

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  4. moonbathers
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    I'm not sure how much I buy the part about China making this whole thing seems worse than it was, but I absolutely believe the rest of it.

    I'm not sure how much I buy the part about China making this whole thing seems worse than it was, but I absolutely believe the rest of it.

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