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Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of September 7

This thread is posted weekly, and is intended as a place for more-casual discussion of the coronavirus and questions/updates that may not warrant their own dedicated topics. Tell us about what the situation is like where you live!

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    Deimos
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    Axios has a look at some data and indicators today showing that interest/engagement towards coronavirus stories on the internet has dropped way off, like Google searches being back down to a...

    Axios has a look at some data and indicators today showing that interest/engagement towards coronavirus stories on the internet has dropped way off, like Google searches being back down to a similar level as February (before most people started caring): We're numb to the coronavirus

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      kfwyre
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      I certainly can't speak for all of America, but from my perspective, my country has simply given up. I don't know if we ever even had a chance in the first place. This whole pandemic has revealed...

      I certainly can't speak for all of America, but from my perspective, my country has simply given up. I don't know if we ever even had a chance in the first place.

      This whole pandemic has revealed how selfish, impatient, and conflict-addicted we are, and neither those nor COVID are going away any time soon. We don't have an exit strategy for this pandemic save for a vaccine. That won't be here for a while, and it's clear we're incapable of waiting it out. This is as much a structural flaw as it is a character one. America was not set up to handle this institutionally, much less individually, and certainly not collectively.

      I had an appointment with my doctor this week, which I'd originally postponed from back in March when things first shut down. We spent the majority of the time talking about COVID, of course, and he said that I should prepare for the idea that we will be doing mitigation through masks and distancing for a long time -- possibly years. He said that I should expect that people I know and care about will get it. He said that I should come to terms with the reality that I will probably get it at some point.

      He wasn't trying to be an alarmist; he was simply managing my expectations. I appreciated it, and what he was saying makes sense. In the US, we have had consistent continual infections for months now. Why should that suddenly change? Why wouldn't he base his predictions on the months worth of irrefutable data we now have? Even with a low statistical chance of getting infected on any given day, the longer this persists, the higher the aggregate chance. And because it has already gone this long, signs at present point to it going a lot longer.

      I appreciated his predictions because the entire time this has been going on I've been troubled and, honestly, a little bit infuriated by seemingly everyone's short-sighted optimism. Since this started, there has been a sort of rolling horizon that seems to only extend out a few weeks, past which there's a compelling illusory belief that COVID-19 will just sort of be "over", somehow, magically. We're now half a year in and many people still seem to think that. They don't envision a COVID Thanksgiving, a COVID Christmas, or a COVID New Year's Day. My coworkers look at me in surprise when I say that I don't think we will return to full in-person schooling not just this calendar year, but this academic year. I think we'll be in masks and separate desks until June.

      I'd love to be wrong about that, but I'm surprised at how few of them have thought that far out. Too many people still can only see that close horizon and the empty promises beyond it. I wonder if part of the reason we're giving up is because that illusion is starting to fade. We're starting to realize that safety isn't just a few weeks away. How many more can we go, hoping for a relief that never actually shows up? How long until we collectively realize there isn't a return to normal waiting just around the corner? The only thing around the corner right now is an existential threat patiently watching us let our guards down, whether out of ignorance, malice, or fatigue.

      I'm tired of this. I'm an introverted homebody through and through, and even I am starting to feel the limitations of this lifestyle. I'm also not in control, which is maddening. It's not about what I do, but what we all do. I stayed home for almost six months -- SIX MONTHS -- only to be pushed back into a building with my coworkers and, soon, students. I did everything right for myself, but now my outcomes are dependent not on me but on them.

      Back when governments were looking at reopening bars and restaurants and other gathering spaces after shutting them down there was a lot of talk of phases and meeting certain benchmarks before we could move forward. If the data didn't support it, then we didn't reopen -- simple as that, but that's all gone now. There are no metrics or data guiding the reopening of schools. We just gave up and said "fuck it, send the kids back", basing our decisions not on public health but on the calendar. "It's August: back to school!" Yeah, but what about the pandemic that's still going on? "Doesn't matter; it's August!"

      I once described the US's response to coronavirus as being like a group project that we failed and that we were trying to force a passing grade for, even though we didn't deserve it. I think the analogy was true for the time that I wrote it, but I don't think it's true anymore.

      Now it feels like we've stopped caring about passing in the first place. We've given up. And I get it. This isn't accusatory. I feel like giving up too. I don't know if we ever even had a chance in the first place.

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      1. krg
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        I wouldn’t say we’ve given up, as no one really tried in the first place. The response to COVID was/is messy and unideal in many ways, but I think its the response to the response that is...

        I wouldn’t say we’ve given up, as no one really tried in the first place. The response to COVID was/is messy and unideal in many ways, but I think its the response to the response that is exacerbating these feelings of hopelessness in some people. But most people (from what I’ve seen) are just going about their day, doing what they’re allowed to (everything’s closed? guess I’ll stay home. Oh, outdoor dining’s now available? cool, I’ll do that. Gotta wear a mask? yea, sure, whatever.), and treating this pandemic as a cultural curiosity rather than imminent doom. I feel like it’s the media attempting to generate hysteria (not because it’s some conspiracy, but, because... that’s what media does) that’s causing such a tribalistic response outta some people (whose voices are probably disproportionately amplified in social media).

        Hmm... I dunno... I’m trying to recognize the reality of this thing, myself.. From what I gather, it’s a potentially deadly disease (much more so if you’re in a certain demographic) that has killed people (~0.05% of U.S. pop.) and will kill more (maybe ~0.1% of U.S. pop.) and might leave long-lasting damage on those that do recover. It’s not a pleasant happening, for sure... but it’s not the black plague. Though, what our response has shown me is that if it were...by the time we got our shit together and took it seriously, it’d probably be too late.

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    2. krg
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      I posit the over-saturation of coverage in the media may have had something to do with COVID burnout.

      I posit the over-saturation of coverage in the media may have had something to do with COVID burnout.

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  2. moocow1452
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    So, I got a bill for $400 (billed $50 and the rest may or may not have come out of my HSA) for an "Emergency Room Visit" where I went for a drive through Covid test at the hospital and got my...

    So, I got a bill for $400 (billed $50 and the rest may or may not have come out of my HSA) for an "Emergency Room Visit" where I went for a drive through Covid test at the hospital and got my oxygen checked. It was low, so they had me do a lap around the parking lot, then checked my oxygen again, it was acceptable, so they sent me on my way. I went to the student hospital across town, got an in person Doctor visit and a test and was billed $200, paid $100, which is expensive, but I saw a doctor so, fine I guess.

    EDIT: Paid the $50, going to keep an eye on my HSA as it looks fine for now, and the next time I need to be tested for an apocalyptic super virus, they'll have to get some other sucker.

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  3. spit-evil-olive-tips
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    Sturgis Motorcycle Rally May Have Caused 250,000 Coronavirus Cases, Economists Say The cited paper: https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/13670 Direct link to the 63-page PDF:...

    Sturgis Motorcycle Rally May Have Caused 250,000 Coronavirus Cases, Economists Say

    According to Andrew Friedson, associate professor of Economics at the University of Colorado, over 250,000 Covid-19 cases reported nationwide between August 2 and September 2 are due to the rally, which would account for approximately 19% of cases in the U.S. during this timeframe.

    The cited paper: https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/13670

    Direct link to the 63-page PDF: http://ftp.iza.org/dp13670.pdf

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  4. skybrian
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    Covid: why Spain is hit worse than the rest of Europe [...]

    Covid: why Spain is hit worse than the rest of Europe

    Spain is again reporting up to 10,000 new cases a day — as it did at the peak of the pandemic in March and April. But Spanish officials insist the figures are not comparable. They argue that in March only about one case in 10 was detected, which meant daily tallies showed just a sliver of the real picture. Now, they say, the detection rate may be between 70-90 per cent.

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    The problem is that the crisis has been hugely complicated by Spain’s political polarisation and its decentralised model of governance.

    Pedro Sánchez, prime minister, insists handling the pandemic is now primarily the responsibility of the country’s regions, whose collective health budget is more than 10 times that of his administration. The regions respond that the central government must provide more leadership.

    The upshot is that while controls were rapidly dropped in June — with plans for a step-by-step phase out being discarded — reintroducing such curbs has been halting and sometimes halfhearted.

    Some epidemiologists identify this as the central error in the handling of the crisis. Regions were able to scrap lockdown measures without demonstrating they were increasing track or trace staff or preparing more adequately for a new rise in cases.

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  5. spit-evil-olive-tips
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    At 10, Kyle can no longer imagine what he wants to be when he grows up At 17, Noel's college football dreams are up in the air. What else will he lose this senior year? At 24, Sarah is set to...
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  6. skybrian
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    95 UT students tested positive for COVID-19 before Longhorns football game U So, about 8% positive, and most people attending haven’t been tested?

    95 UT students tested positive for COVID-19 before Longhorns football game
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    A University of Texas-Austin spokesperson says 1,198 students were tested for COVID-19 before Saturday’s Longhorns football game, with 95 testing positive and 1,103 negative.

    UT offered free COVID-19 testing for students who purchased the Big Ticket package for UT athletics events. In order to claim a ticket for the Longhorns‘ season opener, students had to test negative. Once a student tested negative, the student was able to claim their ticket online Saturday morning.

    UT Athletics announced 15,337 people attended the Longhorns game against UTEP, which is below the department’s previous estimations.

    So, about 8% positive, and most people attending haven’t been tested?

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