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On the ground info on India COVID situation

@Ak:
India's major cities are in the middle of harrowing, grim and deathly collapse of its healthcare system. I have been trying (like many others) to help people find things that they need. Which has helped me see the ground situationThis is what's happening :

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  1. Loire
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    It's cold but countries need to immediately cut all travel from India and quarantine all recent Indian travelers. We are just getting a hold of the covid situation, however most vaccination...

    It's cold but countries need to immediately cut all travel from India and quarantine all recent Indian travelers. We are just getting a hold of the covid situation, however most vaccination programs have prioritized older populations. If this variant truly affects younger populations as is being reported this could destroy the progress we have been making with our vaccination programs.

    This is absolutely harrowing for India. Everything epidemiologists warned of coming to pass. The country needs to be isolated while subsequently shipped any resources that can be spared, especially foreign plasma, tests, and vaccines.

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    Wulfsta
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    Does anyone have any sources of data about how existing vaccines fare in relation to these strains? Do we have any measure of approximately how much needs to change for our vaccines to have...

    Does anyone have any sources of data about how existing vaccines fare in relation to these strains? Do we have any measure of approximately how much needs to change for our vaccines to have reduced efficiency? I’ve only really seen speculation, and would be interested in actual papers or data.

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    1. Amarok
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      I haven't seen any hard data on this yet myself. In theory the vaccines confer immunity to the entire SARS collection of viruses. Patients that had the original SARS or MERS are immune to covid 17...

      I haven't seen any hard data on this yet myself. In theory the vaccines confer immunity to the entire SARS collection of viruses. Patients that had the original SARS or MERS are immune to covid 17 years later, so that immunity is expected to be long lasting.

      That said, nobody has run the numbers. That's just an educated guess until we do. No one knows if the virus is cagey enough to dodge the vaccine immunity or not.

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  3. post_below
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    The revelation about the new strain, and how it's behaving, if true, is exactly the thing experts have been concerned about.

    The revelation about the new strain, and how it's behaving, if true, is exactly the thing experts have been concerned about.

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    Amarok
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    Well, shit. That's not supposed to happen, generally speaking. Most viruses get more friendly and benign so they don't kill their hosts. This is deeply troubling news, and it means we haven't seen...

    mutating into a super deadly strain that affects hitherto safer section of population (young people)
    spreading exponentially faster than past strains
    worsened symptoms

    Well, shit. That's not supposed to happen, generally speaking. Most viruses get more friendly and benign so they don't kill their hosts. This is deeply troubling news, and it means we haven't seen the worst of this pandemic yet by a long shot.

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      cfabbro
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      According to The Guardian article I posted a few days ago in the coronavirus update topic: So yeah, if the reports are accurate, and this strain starts to spread worldwide we could all be in...

      According to The Guardian article I posted a few days ago in the coronavirus update topic:

      The country has descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.

      Dr Amit Thadhani, director of Niramaya hospital in Mumbai, which is only treating Covid patients, said he had given warnings about a virulent second wave back in February but they had gone ignored. He said now his hospital was “completely full and if a patient gets discharged, the bed is filled within minutes”. Ten days ago, the hospital ran out of oxygen, but alternative supplies were found just in time.

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      Thadhani said this time round the virus was “much more aggressive and much more infectious” and was now predominately affecting young people. “Now it is people in their 20s and 30s who are coming in with very severe symptoms and there is a lot of mortality among young people,” he said.

      So yeah, if the reports are accurate, and this strain starts to spread worldwide we could all be in serious trouble.

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      1. teaearlgraycold
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        I’m sure the strain is already worldwide. Hopefully the existing vaccines work on it.

        I’m sure the strain is already worldwide. Hopefully the existing vaccines work on it.

        5 votes