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Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of January 10

This thread is posted weekly, and is intended as a place for more-casual discussion of the coronavirus and questions/updates that may not warrant their own dedicated topics. Tell us about what the situation is like where you live!

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  1. cfabbro
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    My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid

    My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid

    “I don’t know how you do your job,” is a common sentiment oncologists hear from those who assume that treating cancer must be uniformly depressing. But this is not the whole truth. The real gratification comes from accompanying patients on a tough journey and staying the course.

    Which is why I rush to intensive care when I hear that one of my long-term patients has been admitted overnight.

    While I was away, her disease progressed. She had begun aggressive chemotherapy and days later, she fell ill. Expecting a conversation about a temporary setback, I encounter a gravely ill woman who is intubated, with failing organs, on maximal life support.

    Her family has been allowed in for a glimpse. Our long association makes the exchange hard. I tell them that the next 24 hours will be critical and even if she survives, there is difficulty ahead.

    A few hours later, the intensive care doctor calls.

    She’s very unwell, he says before getting to the real point.

    “I am asking you if we can make an early call to palliate and discharge her from ICU.”

    “When?”

    “Now.”

    My disbelief must be open because it prompts the rueful explanation that a Covid patient needs an intensive care bed.

    The pieces fall together instantly. With intensive care at capacity, I am being asked to move my patient to make room for another. “After all, your patient does have incurable cancer.”

    My bile rises. And even as I know it’s a petty question, I can’t help asking: “Is the Covid patient vaccinated?”

    “No,” he says wearily. “That’s why he is so sick.”

    Recriminations flood my mind, but this is no time for argument. I have deep regard for an old colleague who feels ethically conflicted and is asking for my help. I am torn between respecting his predicament and honouring my patient.

    He agrees that absent a pandemic, if I had suggested withdrawing care, he would have counselled hanging on a little longer. And he concedes that while many of my patients die prematurely, it is important for the family to know that we did all we could. To change course merely hours after our bedside conversation would multiply this family’s grief. In turn, I understand that for a chance at survival, the Covid patient needs a ventilator.

    By nature, I seek consensus and I’d like nothing more than to relieve my colleague’s obvious stress. But in a career filled with ethical dilemmas, this one really tugs at me. Only my word stands between the trajectory of a patient’s life and how her family will forever recall the experience. I am staggered by a power that I never sought, and it makes me queasy.

    Keeping my voice steady, I say: “If you are asking for my permission to withdraw care tonight, I can’t give it. My patient may have cancer, but she deserves a chance.”

    As I worry about alienating him, his voice breaks.

    “I hope that if asked, my parent’s oncologist would make the exact same decision.”

    The revelation leaves me speechless but with patients to see, there will have to be another time to ask after him.

    My patient died quickly in intensive care. When we spoke, her family was grateful for our compassion and care and could not fault the system.

    We don’t know what happened to the other patient. If he endured a prolonged wait, his family might feel let down by the delay, though his certain extended stay in intensive care will impact the next patient.

    I doubt this will be any consolation to anyone, least of all those who must actually make the difficult decisions.

    14 votes
  2. [5]
    eladnarra
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    "Hospitals Are in Serious Trouble: Omicron is inundating a health-care system that was already buckling under the cumulative toll of every previous surge." [...] [...]

    "Hospitals Are in Serious Trouble: Omicron is inundating a health-care system that was already buckling under the cumulative toll of every previous surge."

    In this surge, COVID-19 hospitalizations rose slowly at first, from about 40,000 nationally in early November to 65,000 on Christmas. But with the super-transmissible Delta variant joined by the even-more-transmissible Omicron, the hospitalization count has shot up to 110,000 in the two weeks since then. “The volume of people presenting to our emergency rooms is unlike anything I’ve ever seen before,” Kit Delgado, an emergency physician in Pennsylvania, told me. Health-care workers in 11 different states echoed what he said: Already, this surge is pushing their hospitals to the edge. And this is just the beginning. Hospitalizations always lag behind cases by about two weeks, so we’re only starting to see the effects of daily case counts that have tripled in the past 14 days (and are almost certainly underestimates). By the end of the month, according to the CDC’s forecasts, COVID will be sending at least 24,700 and up to 53,700 Americans to the hospital every single day.

    [...]

    Every part of the health-care system has been affected, diminishing the quality of care for all patients. A lack of pharmacists and outpatient clinicians makes it harder for people to get tests, vaccines, and even medications; as a result, more patients are ending up in the hospital with chronic-disease flare-ups. There aren’t enough paramedics, making it more difficult for people to get to the hospital at all. Lab technicians are falling ill, which means that COVID-test results (and medical-test results in general) are taking longer to come back. Respiratory therapists are in short supply, making it harder to ventilate patients who need oxygen. Facilities that provide post-acute care are being hammered, which means that many groups of patients—those who need long-term care, dialysis, or care for addiction or mental-health problems—cannot be discharged from hospitals, because there’s nowhere to send them.

    [...]

    To be clear, these problems are not affecting just COVID patients, but all patients. When Swaminathan’s friends asked what they should be doing about Omicron, he advised them about boosters and masks, but also about wearing a seat belt and avoiding ladders. “You don’t want to be injured now,” he told me. “Any need to go to the emergency department is going to be a problem.” This is the bind that Americans, including vaccinated ones, now face. Even if they’re unconcerned about COVID or at low personal risk from it, they can still spread a variant that could ultimately affect them should they need medical care for anything.

    11 votes
    1. [4]
      eladnarra
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      Somewhat related, this week I have to decide between going to an appointment on Friday or waiting until the next available one in mid-March. Numbers are very high at the moment, so maybe waiting...

      Somewhat related, this week I have to decide between going to an appointment on Friday or waiting until the next available one in mid-March. Numbers are very high at the moment, so maybe waiting is better - but who knows what COVID will be like in March. And who knows if waiting will negatively impact my health.

      6 votes
      1. eladnarra
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        I ended up postponing my appointment. But now of course I'm experiencing new symptoms so... I guess we'll see if I become part of the "bad outcomes due to delayed care" statistics. I'm so bitter...

        I ended up postponing my appointment. But now of course I'm experiencing new symptoms so... I guess we'll see if I become part of the "bad outcomes due to delayed care" statistics. I'm so bitter that people went on vacations during the holidays when Omicron was ramping up, while I end up sobbing in the bathroom because I'm forced to choose between risking COVID and risking other health issues.

        7 votes
      2. [2]
        skybrian
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        Although I haven't done the numbers, it doesn't seem like it would be mathematically possible that the current wave could last that long at current levels? Waves come to an end as they run out of...

        Although I haven't done the numbers, it doesn't seem like it would be mathematically possible that the current wave could last that long at current levels? Waves come to an end as they run out of people to infect.

        3 votes
        1. eladnarra
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          Yeah, I think March is more likely to be a lull; after all, some models say we're currently at the peak or will be soon. But I've almost always been wrong so far when predicting how things will go...

          Yeah, I think March is more likely to be a lull; after all, some models say we're currently at the peak or will be soon. But I've almost always been wrong so far when predicting how things will go - I never see new variants coming. So I don't know if I trust my intuition anymore.

          3 votes
  3. [7]
    simplify
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    California Issues New Guidance on Quarantine and Isolation for Healthcare Workers

    California Issues New Guidance on Quarantine and Isolation for Healthcare Workers

    Healthcare workers who are exposed to COVID-19 and are asymptomatic may return to work immediately without quarantining and testing, and those who test positive and are asymptomatic may return to work immediately without isolation and without testing.

    9 votes
    1. simplify
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      This actually blows my mind and it shows how bad the pandemic truly is right now. So many people are out there pretending everything is normal, but many hospitals are on the precipice of failure....

      This actually blows my mind and it shows how bad the pandemic truly is right now. So many people are out there pretending everything is normal, but many hospitals are on the precipice of failure. Cancel that ski trip and leave those Christmas lights up on the house for a while. Anything you can do to avoid injury and accident. You can't count on the hospital being able to help you.

      11 votes
    2. simplify
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      It's happening in Arizona, too. Arizona health care provider OKs virus-positive hospital workers

      It's happening in Arizona, too.

      Arizona health care provider OKs virus-positive hospital workers

      A major health care provider in Arizona will allow employees who are experiencing mild COVID-19 symptoms or are asymptomatic to keep working at its hospitals and facilities.

      Because of the omicron variant’s rapid spread in Maricopa County and in anticipation of a continued increase, Dignity Health officials said they have enacted the “third tier” of the federal guidelines for health care workers with the coronavirus.

      “These guidelines allow COVID-19 positive health care personnel who are asymptomatic or improving with mild symptoms to work without a quarantine period,” Dignity Health officials said in a statement. “We are doing everything we can to ensure our employees can safely return to work while protecting our patients and staff from the transmissibility of COVID-19.”

      6 votes
    3. [3]
      arghdos
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      Ah yes, I’m sure sending positive asymptomatic healthcare workers back to work won’t contribute to the staff shortage. What a farce

      Ah yes, I’m sure sending positive asymptomatic healthcare workers back to work won’t contribute to the staff shortage.

      What a farce

      4 votes
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        skybrian
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        It will make some difference, but I don't think we know how much given that hospitals are full of infected patients?

        It will make some difference, but I don't think we know how much given that hospitals are full of infected patients?

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        1. arghdos
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          For sure -- it may be a drop in an already overflowing bucket. It's a terrible situation: "Not having enough staff available to keep a hospital open" is clearly awful. But also, good lord,...

          For sure -- it may be a drop in an already overflowing bucket.

          It's a terrible situation: "Not having enough staff available to keep a hospital open" is clearly awful. But also, good lord, healthcare workers have been having to deal with so much already, can you imagine having to go back to work with the possibility of infecting others, developing symptoms later, not resting while having a serious illness, etc.

          I can't imagine a world where this helps burn-out... :/
          We don't even pay lip-service to "supporting our first-responder heros" anymore... it's really laid bare how much the system is taking advantage of them

          4 votes
    4. eladnarra
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      Ooph, I'm not just worried for patients - I'm worried for the healthcare workers. Not resting during the acute phase of an illness may increase the risk of post-viral symptoms/illness.

      Ooph, I'm not just worried for patients - I'm worried for the healthcare workers. Not resting during the acute phase of an illness may increase the risk of post-viral symptoms/illness.

      3 votes
  4. Algernon_Asimov
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    Australia has reached a benchmark: 95% of people aged 16 and over have received their first dose of a COVID vaccine. https://covidlive.com.au/australia And we're rapidly vaccinating the 12-15...

    Australia has reached a benchmark: 95% of people aged 16 and over have received their first dose of a COVID vaccine.

    https://covidlive.com.au/australia

    And we're rapidly vaccinating the 12-15 years (commenced Sep 2021) and 5-11 years (commenced Jan 2022) age groups as well.

    Vaccinating 95% of a population is referred to as "full vaccination". We're on track to achieve that.

    Just wanted to share some positive news.

    (We're also in the midst of a significant outbreak of the Omicron variant, which is dwarfing all previous outbreaks we've had, and we're going through this outbreak without any significant restrictions, relying only on vaccines & masks.)

    9 votes
  5. skybrian
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    State of Affairs: Jan 10 (Your Local Epidemiologist) A good US-centric overview of current stats. If you're interested in following this you should probably just subscribe. (Substack supports...

    State of Affairs: Jan 10 (Your Local Epidemiologist)

    A good US-centric overview of current stats. If you're interested in following this you should probably just subscribe. (Substack supports email and RSS subscriptions.)

    6 votes
  6. skybrian
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    Pfizer plans to manufacture up to 100 million doses of omicron-specific vaccine by spring [...]

    Pfizer plans to manufacture up to 100 million doses of omicron-specific vaccine by spring

    Pfizer is racing ahead with plans to manufacture 50 million to 100 million doses of a new omicron-specific version of its coronavirus vaccine, a reflection of rising concerns that current vaccine formulations may need to be tweaked for the new threat.

    Pfizer also is testing hybrid combinations of vaccine to target multiple coronavirus forms, as well as larger doses.

    The omicron-specific doses will be created “at risk,” CEO Albert Bourla said Monday, meaning that if they are not needed, Pfizer will absorb the costs. The company has climbed to the lead in global vaccine production with 3 billion doses in 2021 and is planning to produce up to 4 billion doses in 2022.

    [...]

    Bourla disclosed the manufacturing plans at an annual health-care conference sponsored by JPMorgan Chase but did not provide a number for doses involved. A Pfizer spokesman, Steven Danehy, said in an email Tuesday that “we hope to have 50-100 million doses of the omicron specific vaccine available by late March/early April.”

    6 votes
  7. simplify
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    U.S. reports 1.35 million COVID-19 cases in a day, shattering global record

    U.S. reports 1.35 million COVID-19 cases in a day, shattering global record

    The United States reported 1.35 million new coronavirus infections on Monday, according to a Reuters tally, the highest daily total for any country in the world as the spread of the highly contagious Omicron variant showed no signs of slowing.

    The previous record was 1.03 million cases on Jan. 3. A large number of cases are reported each Monday due to many states not reporting over the weekend. The seven-day average for new cases has tripled in two weeks to over 700,000 new infections a day.

    The record in new cases came the same day as the nation saw the number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients also hit an all-time high, having doubled in three weeks, according to a Reuters tally.

    There were more than 136,604 people hospitalized with COVID-19, surpassing the record of 132,051 set in January last year.

    5 votes
  8. skybrian
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    United Airlines says 3,000 employees have tested positive for the coronavirus [...]

    United Airlines says 3,000 employees have tested positive for the coronavirus

    Kirby cited the impact of the virus on the airline’s Newark hub, noting that on a single recent day nearly one-third of employees called out sick. The New York region was among the first spots in the United States to see a sharp uptick in coronavirus cases, largely driven by omicron.

    As a result, Kirby said United will reduce its near-term schedule to better balance staffing with flights. In doing so, United joins other carriers, including JetBlue and Alaska Airlines, which in recent days also have announced schedule reductions.

    [...]

    United has drawn fire from critics for requiring that employees be fully vaccinated and firing workers who did not comply with its policy. In his letter, Kirby defended the mandate, saying it spared employees from the worst effects of the coronavirus.

    He said none of the 3,000 employees who have tested positive and are vaccinated are hospitalized. Since the policy went into effect, the hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated employees has been a hundredth of that of the general population of the United States, Kirby said. In addition, United has gone eight weeks without a coronavirus-related death among vaccinated employees.

    5 votes
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    skybrian
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    Supreme Court blocks Biden Covid vaccine mandate for businesses, allows health-care worker rule

    Supreme Court blocks Biden Covid vaccine mandate for businesses, allows health-care worker rule

    "Although Congress has indisputably given OSHA the power to regulate occupational dangers, it has not given that agency the power to regulate public health more broadly," the court wrote in an unsigned opinion.

    "Requiring the vaccination of 84 million Americans, selected simply because they work for employers with more than 100 employees, certainly falls in the latter category," the court wrote.

    5 votes
    1. [6]
      psi
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      A couple articles from The Atlantic: The Supreme Court Has Anointed Itself Czar of the Country’s COVID Rules The Culture War Has Warped the Supreme Court's Judgement Personally, this feel like an...

      A couple articles from The Atlantic:

      Personally, this feel like an overreach by the Supreme Court. Passing legislation is hard – it requires the cooperation of two houses of Congress and the President (or a supermajority of each). Creating rules (via executive agencies) is also hard – it requires (typically) years of work by some agency (not to mention countless civil servants), and if poorly timed, can be expeditiously overturned by Congress.

      Yet the Supreme Court can just waltz in, second guess the opinion of experts, and essentially rewrite the law (Congress empowered OSHA to regulate "substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful", which last I checked, aptly describes COVID). Why are nine Justices, none of which have a scientific background, the de facto policy makers for our coronavirus response?

      6 votes
      1. [5]
        skybrian
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        It’s kind of odd to imply that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have the authority to interpret the law. In particular, what authority did Congress, when passing OSHA, give the Executive branch? This...

        It’s kind of odd to imply that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have the authority to interpret the law. In particular, what authority did Congress, when passing OSHA, give the Executive branch? This seems pretty straightforwardly a legal question (not a scientific one) of the sort that the Supreme Court deals with all the time?

        It’s true that passing legislation is hard, but this isn’t supposed to be a reason to give powers to the Executive branch that Congress didn’t pass a law saying they should have. Executive orders often do overreach and without the Supreme Court, a president could do many things that Congress didn’t intend.

        Of course in this particular case you could argue that OSHA did give the Executive branch this power, as you did, but that’s different from saying that Supreme Court shouldn’t be able to make this call.

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          psi
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          I agree that there should be a check to the executive branch, but it's clear that the judiciary is not a co-equal branch of government – it has much greater power than the other two. Consider...

          I agree that there should be a check to the executive branch, but it's clear that the judiciary is not a co-equal branch of government – it has much greater power than the other two.

          Consider self-defense laws pre-Heller. If the US government decided that people should have the right to keep handguns for self defense, you would need the majority of the House, 60% of the Senate, and the signature of the President.

          Or alternatively, as we learned from Heller, the Supreme Court – with the consensus of just five people – can radically change gun laws across the country.

          Moreover, although this is a bit of a tangent, I'd be remiss not to mention the role the Supreme Court plays in conferring a structural advantage to conservatives. Consider the (now dead) Build Back Better (BBB) bill. In order for that bill to become law, we need the support of the majority of the Senate, the majority of the House, the signature of the President (or a supermajority of both houses), and the blessing of the Supreme Court. If any of those bodies oppose the legislation, the bill cannot survive. There is no Republican alternative to BBB (queue jokes about "infrastructure week" under the Trump administration), as the Republican perspective is that the we should increase spending (taxes) under almost no circumstances. Thus getting things done requires the cooperation of the House, the Senate, the President, and the Supreme Court, whereas leaving things as-is only requires the opposition of one of them.

          If BBB had passed, the law most certainly would've been challenged and likely would've ended up before the Supreme Court. I don't know who would've brought the suit or on what grounds. However, our laws and Constitution are sufficiently broad that someone could've mustered an argument against BBB. The only question, then, would be whether the Supreme Court could divorce their political biases from their legal judgements. Frankly, I doubt it.

          Returning to the vaccine mandate case, it's not as though OSHA doesn't have lawyers – they cleared the rule, after all. The Supreme Court simply disagreed with OSHA's lawyers. So what should happen when an agency and the Supreme Court disagree? Obviously we should consider the perspective from all branches, but why is it that the Supreme Court's opinions are ultimately the only ones that matter?

          I don't have the answers to these questions.

          2 votes
          1. skybrian
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            The lawyers working for the administration aren’t unbiased. Their job is in to make a case for executive power. Deciding who is right is what a court does. That’s the whole point - to get an...

            The lawyers working for the administration aren’t unbiased. Their job is in to make a case for executive power. Deciding who is right is what a court does. That’s the whole point - to get an outside opinion.

            The problem is that nobody trusts the Supreme Court to give an unbiased opinion anymore - except when the Court happens to agree with them.

            3 votes
        2. [2]
          NoblePath
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          This kind of situation is why we put humans in charge of these kind of questions instead of algorithms. It also shows the fallibility of this strategy. Smart, compassionate human justices Could...

          This kind of situation is why we put humans in charge of these kind of questions instead of algorithms. It also shows the fallibility of this strategy.

          Smart, compassionate human justices
          Could have delayed an examination of the issue until a global emergency is over and let scientific experts carry the day. Instead, they put dedication to some kind of purism come out in front. Certainly that dedication has played second chair in past times of emergency. Japanese internment camps and various immigration policies come to mind.

          If, as seems scientifically likely, there are no substantial adverse health effects to vaccination, history may rightly place responsibility for excess covid deaths on this Court.

          1. skybrian
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            I’m not sure that the timing is all that bad. It seems like the companies that wanted to require their employees to be vaccinated already did it? The ones that didn’t probably would keep delaying...

            I’m not sure that the timing is all that bad. It seems like the companies that wanted to require their employees to be vaccinated already did it? The ones that didn’t probably would keep delaying it until it’s no longer relevant.

            The Supreme Court decision probably will have more impact on what happens next pandemic, whenever that is.

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      HotPants
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      With Omicron likely to rip through America in the next few weeks, I wonder if this matters any more?

      With Omicron likely to rip through America in the next few weeks, I wonder if this matters any more?

      1 vote
      1. [3]
        skybrian
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        I think it provided cover for large companies that wanted to vaccinate their workforce. I haven't heard about anything about it being enforced. It seems like if they changed the rule to only...

        I think it provided cover for large companies that wanted to vaccinate their workforce. I haven't heard about anything about it being enforced.

        It seems like if they changed the rule to only require vaccinations of people who are at high risk of infecting others in the workplace (that is, not working outdoors or remotely), it might have been a better case?

        2 votes
        1. psi
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          The "vaccine mandate" was a bit of a misnomer; the rule already exempted the cases you mentioned. The requirement to vaccinate (or test!) only applied if workers couldn't otherwise socially distance.

          The "vaccine mandate" was a bit of a misnomer; the rule already exempted the cases you mentioned. The requirement to vaccinate (or test!) only applied if workers couldn't otherwise socially distance.

          2 votes
        2. HotPants
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          I was hoping out loud that with Omicron, we might be up and over the final major wave.

          I was hoping out loud that with Omicron, we might be up and over the final major wave.

  10. skybrian
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    1 million expired COVID tests sitting in Florida warehouse OK to use after FDA grants extension […] Meanwhile, the expiration date for at-home Binax tests has been extended to 15 months.

    1 million expired COVID tests sitting in Florida warehouse OK to use after FDA grants extension

    Earlier this month, Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration revealed between 800,000 and 1 million Abbott BinaxNOW COVID-19 tests had sat idle in a warehouse and expired in December.

    Federal regulators, however, approved a three-month extension, meaning the tests can be used through March.

    […]

    The Florida Department of Health clarified in a statement that the tests are "produced for testing sites and require trained professionals to administer them."

    Meanwhile, the expiration date for at-home Binax tests has been extended to 15 months.

    4 votes