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Norwegian Jehovah's Witnesses no longer registered as religious community – due to exclusionary practices when someone breaks religious rules

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Jehovah's Witnesses Norway lose registration religious community

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    NaraVara
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    Isn’t exclusionary practice when someone breaks religious rules kind of the whole point of the religious commandments though? Like I have as much to criticize about the practices and norms of...

    Isn’t exclusionary practice when someone breaks religious rules kind of the whole point of the religious commandments though?

    Like I have as much to criticize about the practices and norms of Jehova’s witnesses as any liberal person, but if that’s the standard how exactly do we square the various law books in the Bible or Koran?

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    1. knocklessmonster
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      I had a comment that was going to look at some of the nuance, but there's not much difference between Jewish Herem, Catholic excommunication and JW's expulsion. However, Jehovah's Witnesses also...

      I had a comment that was going to look at some of the nuance, but there's not much difference between Jewish Herem, Catholic excommunication and JW's expulsion. However, Jehovah's Witnesses also have a lot of laws that even when fairly liberally translated cause an issue with some aspect of modern humanity, and their punishment is severe (excommunication).

      It seems like it's so easy to get kicked out that Norway caught on and de-listed them. I have a similar familarity with Catholicism and Judaism as I do with JW, but with how shallow my knowledge is of all three I know more ways to get kicked out of a JW hall than the other two.

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    2. vord
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      The simple way: Religious law does not trump societal law, especially in a secular state. You can have all the religous laws you want, but you must adhere to the broader law of the people around...

      The simple way: Religious law does not trump societal law, especially in a secular state.

      You can have all the religous laws you want, but you must adhere to the broader law of the people around you first.

      Mormons JW are exceptionally culty to begin with, so I have little sympathy for their plights.

      Edit: Whoops forgot JW aren't Mormons, though statement still applies. They're both a bit batty and have very pushy recruiting.

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    3. NoblePath
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      It’s an important issue to raise, what with multiple liberty principles implicated. I didn’t read tfa, but the safety way of dealing with this (and also issues of political Speech in chirches) is...

      It’s an important issue to raise, what with multiple liberty principles implicated.

      I didn’t read tfa, but the safety way of dealing with this (and also issues of political
      Speech in chirches) is tax exemption vs right to exist. Such that the state won’t curtail any religious behavior (with exceptions, some good (sacrificing babies) some bad (ayuhausca)), but it will remove tax exemptions for for bad practices.

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