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Tower of Babble: Non-native speakers navigate the world of 'good' and 'bad' English

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    Levantus
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    I’m not sure how I feel about this article and am looking for some input from others. While I think it’s important to accommodate non-native speakers in a conversation, the author at certain...

    I’m not sure how I feel about this article and am looking for some input from others. While I think it’s important to accommodate non-native speakers in a conversation, the author at certain points seems to suggest the globalization of English requires that it be broken down to its basest meanings. Disclosure: I am a native speaker from birth. Thoughts?

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    1. pallas
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      I'm not even sure the author's suggestions can be seen as being so consistent, and honestly find the article rather offensive. They appear to argue that one should avoid idioms from some dialects...

      the author at certain points seems to suggest the globalization of English requires that it be broken down to its basest meanings

      I'm not even sure the author's suggestions can be seen as being so consistent, and honestly find the article rather offensive. They appear to argue that one should avoid idioms from some dialects of English, while using idioms from other dialects, within the space of a few paragraphs decrying ‘improving synergy’ and extolling ‘do the needful.’ In doing so, they appear to relegate all Indian English speakers to the status of ‘non-native,’ and attribute a phrase that appears to originate from English (albeit not American English) to a foreign language, presumably because the people who primarily use it are not American. They similarly describe criticism of accents as gatekeeping and bullying, then proceed to criticize non-rhotic and other accents, and refer to scientific support for their suggestion that people should change their accents, while linking to a paper that appears, from a quick glance, to have very different goals (a consistent accent to teach language learners).

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