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An Alabama “ISIS bride” wants to come home. Can we forgive her horrifying social media posts?

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        1. SunSpotter
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          It's obvious the government doesn't want her back and is just playing a game to deny her reentry. Even still, its hard for me to feel sorry for her, but I worry about the precedents being set with...

          It's obvious the government doesn't want her back and is just playing a game to deny her reentry.

          Even still, its hard for me to feel sorry for her, but I worry about the precedents being set with cases like this.

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  2. hereticalgorithm
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    This process of radicalization reminds me a ton of the stuff we'd see on the chans: Appeal to existing religious beliefs (QAnon's use of Christological imagry) Egging on real-life action (/pol/...

    This process of radicalization reminds me a ton of the stuff we'd see on the chans:

    Appeal to existing religious beliefs (QAnon's use of Christological imagry)

    Egging on real-life action (/pol/ celebrating their two recent mass shooters)

    Calculated use of escalation, using more respectable (alt-lite) figures as an intro to more serious shit:

    What I found was that Muthana had removed herself from her IRL community and had been pulled into her online community — at first the Muslim "Twittersphere," as she called it, and then, slowly, the networks of women ISIS members. On the ground in Alabama, I was following a ghost. She told me that she purposefully removed herself from her community once she had the clandestine agency to establish a social media presence. At first, it was one that included her siblings, her acquaintances from the mosque, her school friends — and those who knew her in real life and on social media told me that she purposefully created a “better” version of herself for Twitter, one that gained thousands of followers. Then that version of herself connected with radicals — and slowly began to share their way of thinking.

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  3. Birb
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    Wow, what an incredible article. I don't think her citizenship should be denied, but undoubtedly she should face repercussions for her actions. I'm curious what all she experienced while in Syria;...

    Wow, what an incredible article. I don't think her citizenship should be denied, but undoubtedly she should face repercussions for her actions. I'm curious what all she experienced while in Syria; her interactions with the journalist were interesting.

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    Shouldn't these ISIS brides be prosecuted for treason?

    Shouldn't these ISIS brides be prosecuted for treason?

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      temporalarcheologist
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      legally? they probably should, but after reading the article I think non fighters should be given an avenue to come back now that ISIS is for the most part done

      legally? they probably should, but after reading the article I think non fighters should be given an avenue to come back now that ISIS is for the most part done

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      1. alyaza
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        also, i doubt anybody would bother to prosecute them even if you presume they could be prosecuted because it'd be a giant headache for basically no payoff. treason is difficult to prove even by...

        legally? they probably should, but after reading the article I think non fighters should be given an avenue to come back now that ISIS is for the most part done

        also, i doubt anybody would bother to prosecute them even if you presume they could be prosecuted because it'd be a giant headache for basically no payoff. treason is difficult to prove even by the already difficult standards of the legal system, and on the whole ISIS militants who leave the group are just such small fish that it'd be a waste of effort and probably taxpayer money. it's not like they have the significance or knowledge of abu bakr al-baghdadi, after all.

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