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On the other side of Prime Day, Amazon workers brace for 'two months of hell'

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  1. [6]
    Douglas
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    So happy to see more critical coverage of worker conditions at places like Amazon to bring more heightened awareness of it all. Is it just my news bubble, or does it feel like more people are...

    So happy to see more critical coverage of worker conditions at places like Amazon to bring more heightened awareness of it all.

    Is it just my news bubble, or does it feel like more people are turning their back on Amazon? Everyone at my work has canceled their Prime membership, and nobody I know cares about Prime day.

    15 votes
    1. [4]
      alyaza
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      i would imagine it's somewhat true, but being amplified by a news bubble. amazon's probably not hurting too much from how things are now, and the strike action against them probably won't hurt...

      Is it just my news bubble, or does it feel like more people are turning their back on Amazon? Everyone at my work has canceled their Prime membership, and nobody I know cares about Prime day.

      i would imagine it's somewhat true, but being amplified by a news bubble. amazon's probably not hurting too much from how things are now, and the strike action against them probably won't hurt them much either, but there's certainly been an increasing degree of backlash against them from various avenues and that might jeopardize things in their future if it continues to grow un-abetted.

      9 votes
      1. [3]
        ubergeek
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        Without looking at the numbers... I wonder if amazon the seller is really that big of a business, consider amazon, the cloud provider?

        amazon's probably not hurting too much from how things are now, and the strike action against them probably won't hurt them much either

        Without looking at the numbers... I wonder if amazon the seller is really that big of a business, consider amazon, the cloud provider?

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          Akir
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          You've got the right idea. Amazon is diversified enough that their Amazon.com business could fail and they'd still be a megacorporation. Don't forget that they have more than one online retail...

          You've got the right idea. Amazon is diversified enough that their Amazon.com business could fail and they'd still be a megacorporation. Don't forget that they have more than one online retail operation as well.

          3 votes
          1. alyaza
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            amazon could pretty comfortably be split into like, 12 different corporations at this point and i'm pretty sure all of them would still be profitable since amazon has nearly total control or...

            amazon could pretty comfortably be split into like, 12 different corporations at this point and i'm pretty sure all of them would still be profitable since amazon has nearly total control or dominance with certain markets. it's to the point where you basically cannot avoid using every amazon product, in the same way you can't really boycott corporations like nestle completely because they have their hands in everything.

            1 vote
    2. stephen
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      Yeah I think so. I speak out on this basically any time I see someone holding a box from a Amazon fulfillment center and seldom are people aware of the working conditions or their consequences. I...

      Is it just my news bubble

      Yeah I think so. I speak out on this basically any time I see someone holding a box from a Amazon fulfillment center and seldom are people aware of the working conditions or their consequences. I don't know a single person who has stopped buying from amazon.

      2 votes
  2. [2]
    JXM
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    My wife and I made a conscious decision to not buy anything on Prime Day because: A) We want to show support for the workers who are being chewed up and spit out by Amazon. B) Neither of us likes...

    My wife and I made a conscious decision to not buy anything on Prime Day because:

    A) We want to show support for the workers who are being chewed up and spit out by Amazon.

    B) Neither of us likes the idea of Amazon making up a sale holiday out of thin air.

    I think both of these are important but obviously workers well-being much more important.

    11 votes
    1. Douglas
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      On that second point, it did feel surreal seeing that just happen out of nowhere. I recall NPR slipping it into my five minute morning news briefing and thinking "REALLY? THIS is worth mentioning...

      On that second point, it did feel surreal seeing that just happen out of nowhere. I recall NPR slipping it into my five minute morning news briefing and thinking "REALLY? THIS is worth mentioning in my small news dose? No thank you."

      5 votes
  3. [5]
    Algernon_Asimov
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    Why the fuck not? Organise, people! There's strength in numbers. There's strength in Amazon's trillion dollars of capital, and there should be strength in your hundreds of thousands of people.

    Amazon fulfillment center employees are not organized into unions.

    Why the fuck not? Organise, people! There's strength in numbers. There's strength in Amazon's trillion dollars of capital, and there should be strength in your hundreds of thousands of people.

    6 votes
    1. [4]
      alyaza
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      mostly because anti-union propaganda is still pretty widespread in the US, and also the unions that do exist are broadly speaking, fragments of what they used to be and hold only a fraction of the...

      Why the fuck not?

      mostly because anti-union propaganda is still pretty widespread in the US, and also the unions that do exist are broadly speaking, fragments of what they used to be and hold only a fraction of the power they used to. the heyday of the american union was probably 100 years ago, and it's mostly been a slow, unrelenting, painful decline into little more than donor fronts for the democratic party since then. not really a surprise that they're not unionized.

      11 votes
      1. [2]
        Algernon_Asimov
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        I understand the decline in unionisation. Here in Australia, union membership just keeps falling. But they're still mostly respected as a good thing for employees' rights. There are always...

        I understand the decline in unionisation. Here in Australia, union membership just keeps falling. But they're still mostly respected as a good thing for employees' rights. There are always anti-union people (such as most of our current government), and there are always some unions who give the union movement a bad name, but most Australians believe that unions are a good thing in theory.

        You Americans have a strange culture.

        5 votes
        1. imperialismus
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          It's a strange paradox, looking from the outside. One would think that the laissez-faire, libertarian perspective would be that people (workers) coming together as a group of private individuals...

          It's a strange paradox, looking from the outside. One would think that the laissez-faire, libertarian perspective would be that people (workers) coming together as a group of private individuals to collectively negotiate for their own interests (like a political party), and signing a private agreement with a group representing other individuals or corporations (employers), would be preferable to politicians stepping in. In my country, there is no nationally mandated minimum wage. Yet workers still have legally guaranteed better wages than in the US, because of private contracts signed between workers' unions and employers' unions.

          It's almost as if laissez-faire capitalism and private contracts rather than government-issued decrees are preferable up until the point where it doesn't financially benefit the 1%.

          9 votes
      2. kfwyre
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        If anyone wants a good example of some current anti-union propaganda, check out Delta's recent initiative. There's even an app, so you can enjoy its passively threatening messages through the...

        If anyone wants a good example of some current anti-union propaganda, check out Delta's recent initiative. There's even an app, so you can enjoy its passively threatening messages through the convenience of your mobile device!

        3 votes
  4. alyaza
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    amazon seems to have a bit of the yips right now from the recent and ongoing union/labor activity surrounding prime day, because they're hiring people involved in union avoidance, lol: Meanwhile,...

    amazon seems to have a bit of the yips right now from the recent and ongoing union/labor activity surrounding prime day, because they're hiring people involved in union avoidance, lol: Meanwhile, Amazon is recruiting two HR specialists with experience in "union avoidance," so it seems like they're worried.

    6 votes