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I was a fast-food worker. Let me tell you about burnout.

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    lepigpen
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    Insane read. Fast food places are a nightmare and I don't go to them/don't support them. I hope people double down on supporting their local markets, even if it's a super corporation like Kroger....

    Insane read. Fast food places are a nightmare and I don't go to them/don't support them. I hope people double down on supporting their local markets, even if it's a super corporation like Kroger. Either way, the employees there are infinitely more happy than the ones I see at fast food places.

    And if I do need to stop by a place I like to look for a Costco or Starbucks where workers are generally paid better and the environment is a bit more calm. The more we as a society support shitty asshole corporations the more we can expect totally dejected workers, suicide rates rising in a time that is supposed to be the most peaceful and happy ever, and continued pill abuse and alcoholism.

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      1. alyaza
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        alternatively, if you take the leftist line of thinking, it doesn't matter that much who you buy from ultimately (although you should still minimize your impact) because there's no ethical...

        There's just no way that a sufficient number of people are going to buy ALL their products from ONLY companies that have sworn off things like treating their workers poorly, and further on the spectrum, child labor, sweatshops, etc., etc.

        alternatively, if you take the leftist line of thinking, it doesn't matter that much who you buy from ultimately (although you should still minimize your impact) because there's no ethical consumption under capitalism and the people you're shifting your money onto are still most likely exploitative and shitty or necessarily upholding exploitative and shitty industries, just in different ways. regardless, the reality is that if you push more and more people toward "non-shitty" corporations, you just create the same problem later on down the road because scaling to meet the demand that would entail almost necessitates resorting to unambiguously exploitative practices or exploitative labor on the part of those "non-shitty" corporations--at least in the view of those corporations, anyways. someone after all has to be making products, and chances are once you get to a certain size it's not going to be 10,000 people from america working in factories and all getting paid at least $13/hr + worker's comp + occasional paid leave + whatever else when you can get workers in china or burma or thailand to do it 16 hours a day for 50 cents an hour, much less answer the reservations any leftist would have about corporations and consider exploitative.

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        lepigpen
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        Oh I'm not implying anything can be done about it. Just look at the push back against climate change reform. If the threat of permanent damage to our living space isn't engaging to our...

        Oh I'm not implying anything can be done about it.

        Just look at the push back against climate change reform. If the threat of permanent damage to our living space isn't engaging to our politicians, then literally nothing is. (Well, taking money from corporations is but hey...)

        I am well aware of the reality that I can not do anything about almost all bad things happening. That's why I more or less take the George Carlin approach of "watching the freak show". I think Carlin had a deep appreciation of life because he embraces all of its beauties and flaws simultaneously. But yeah, I won't go to Jack In The Box or Taco Bell

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            lepigpen
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            Well that's... You are speaking of an inevitability that I can't quite change. Aside from trying to go completely rogue and bugging out in a van or becoming a monk. I think you take my statements...

            Well that's... You are speaking of an inevitability that I can't quite change. Aside from trying to go completely rogue and bugging out in a van or becoming a monk. I think you take my statements a bit too far. Remember Carlin was a comedian. lol. He used irony and exaggeration to cleverly reveal many of the subtle flaws and nuances of human behavior. Especially when it came to religion, of course

            I just mean when I say things like "I don't eat fast food", people feel the need to say stuff like "well that's not going to stop fast food places from staying in business"... Very patronizing. I wish I could say simple things without people retorting with left field generalizations that miss the mark. Conversing on the internet has this effect... All the time lol

            I think the best thing said in this thread is actually your last line. "I do what I do anyway." That's a very honest assessment of human behavior, particularly now when we have scary things like anti-vaccination campaigns and left wing protesters assaulting right wing journalists. Shit is so stupid today, but we can barely act surprised when we know the MO of human self-absorption: I do what I do anyway

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                lepigpen
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                Conversation on the internet is very unpleasant. I have been taken out of context like 3 times in this thread alone. It's even worse on reddit lol

                Conversation on the internet is very unpleasant. I have been taken out of context like 3 times in this thread alone. It's even worse on reddit lol

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                  andre
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                  For what it's worth, I found both your and tempestoftruth's comments valuable to read. I'm not sure where you got the unpleasantness from, but I hope it doesn't keep you from contributing in the...

                  For what it's worth, I found both your and tempestoftruth's comments valuable to read. I'm not sure where you got the unpleasantness from, but I hope it doesn't keep you from contributing in the future.

                  1. lepigpen
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                    I don't mean personal unpleasantness (see? context lol). I mean the process is unpleasant because without the nuance of vocal speech a single sentence can be interpreted 2 or even more ways. So...

                    I don't mean personal unpleasantness (see? context lol). I mean the process is unpleasant because without the nuance of vocal speech a single sentence can be interpreted 2 or even more ways. So typically, in order to have a conversation, you need to both be very clear as well as backtrack and clarify certain points that you maybe felt you already made but need to reword or just double down on to get the emphasis through, etc.

                    Ironically, this seems to happen to the more verbose among us. When it comes to the internet, there is a reason internet speak exists. WHY USE LOT WORD WHEN FEW DO TRICK lol

    2. JXM
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      Places like Kroger, Publix, Whole Foods, etc. are not local markets. As you said, they're large corporations. If you are lucky enough to have a truly local food market (or farmer's market), you...

      I hope people double down on supporting their local markets, even if it's a super corporation like Kroger.

      Places like Kroger, Publix, Whole Foods, etc. are not local markets. As you said, they're large corporations. If you are lucky enough to have a truly local food market (or farmer's market), you should get food there. The problem is that they're often more expensive and a lot of people can't afford to shop there.

      Luckily, where I live there is a local grocery store and they aren't insanely expensive. Most of the world isn't so lucky though.

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