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Why do women fake orgasms – and is it anti-feminist? We asked five women

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  1. [9]
    RapidEyeMovement
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    Link to the Study. Sci-Hub Link The Abstract: We aimed to assess, among a U.S. probability sample of adult women: (1) the prevalence of, and reasons given for, faking and no longer faking orgasm,...

    Link to the Study.
    Sci-Hub Link
    The Abstract:
    We aimed to assess, among a U.S. probability sample of adult women:
    (1) the prevalence of, and reasons given for, faking and no longer faking orgasm,
    (2) women's histories of sexual non-communication and reasons for non-communication,
    (3) associations between sexual non-communication and sexual satisfaction and faking orgasm,
    (4) associations between specific sexual communication and recent sexual satisfaction, and
    (5) associations between specific sexual communication and faking orgasm.
    Respondents were 1008 adult women ages 18-94 from the GfK KnowledgePanel (a nationally representative probability sample of non-institutionalized and English-speaking adults), who completed a confidential Internet-based survey.

    Although 58.8% of female respondents reported having ever faked/pretended orgasm, 67.3% of those who had ever faked orgasm no longer did. Women who continued to fake orgasms were more likely to indicate embarrassment talking about sex with their partner in explicit ways and were less likely to agree that they and their partner are able to talk specifically about what makes sex more pleasurable for them. More than half (55.4%) of women reported they had wanted to communicate with a partner regarding sex but decided not to; the most common reasons were not wanting to hurt a partner's feelings (42.4%), not feeling comfortable going into detail (40.2%), and embarrassment (37.7%). Greater self-reported sexual satisfaction was associated with more comfortable sexual communication. Study findings and implications for professionals are discussed in the context of adult sexual development and learning. This includes growing more comfortable talking with a partner about sexual preferences and sexual pleasure.

    No where in the actual study is any any derivative of feminist used. See second study linked below

    Hot Take time: The assertion made in the title is never even hinted at in the study. Which means the columnist made it it up out of whole cloth. Which means we can dismiss this article without much more thought. Hitchens's razor.

    Personal antidote. Even as a CIS guy I've faked orgasms on occasions for a myriad of reasons. (pain, exhaustions, not into it)

    11 votes
    1. [2]
      burkaman
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      The article clearly references two studies, the second of which references feminism. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-019-01510-2 https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s10508-019-01510-2

      The article clearly references two studies, the second of which references feminism.

      https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-019-01510-2
      https://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s10508-019-01510-2

      A survey of 462 heterosexual women from the UK (Mage=38.38 years) found that those who espoused anti-feminist values—that is, those high in hostile sexism—had faked significantly more orgasms over their lifetime.

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      1. RapidEyeMovement
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        Oh wow I missed that second study, thanks for pointing that out. Feel kind of sheepish about that.

        Oh wow I missed that second study, thanks for pointing that out. Feel kind of sheepish about that.

        4 votes
    2. [6]
      Gaywallet
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      How did the logistics of that work out? Did you rush to the bathroom and flush the condom? I honestly can't even imagine faking it, I never have and I never will. It's okay for sex to not end in...

      Personal antidote. Even as a CIS guy I've faked orgasms on occasions for a myriad of reasons. (pain, exhaustions, not into it)

      How did the logistics of that work out? Did you rush to the bathroom and flush the condom? I honestly can't even imagine faking it, I never have and I never will. It's okay for sex to not end in an orgasm (and for myself it often does, as I have trouble with that) and so long as communication is open and honest your partner should never feel bad about this.

      2 votes
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        Diet_Coke
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        It's pretty common in my experience for women to be conditioned to think of men as basically walking dildos. They think we get erections and orgasm by choice, so when we don't do one of those...

        I honestly can't even imagine faking it, I never have and I never will.

        It's pretty common in my experience for women to be conditioned to think of men as basically walking dildos. They think we get erections and orgasm by choice, so when we don't do one of those things they think it's their fault or that we don't find them attractive. In reality, there are all kinds of reasons, but in the moment sometimes it's easier to just fake it.

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        1. Gaywallet
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          That's actually a pretty fair reason as I have experienced women thinking it was their fault or thinking that I didn't find them attractive when I was unable to orgasm.

          That's actually a pretty fair reason as I have experienced women thinking it was their fault or thinking that I didn't find them attractive when I was unable to orgasm.

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        elcuello
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        I mean who even look at the condom afterwards? I always throw it away myself because well I used it then I'll take care of it. It doesn't seem that hard to do. If you can't imagine it you can't...

        I mean who even look at the condom afterwards? I always throw it away myself because well I used it then I'll take care of it. It doesn't seem that hard to do.

        I honestly can't even imagine faking it, I never have and I never will.

        If you can't imagine it you can't say you'll never do it. How about just accepting people are different and that faking it once or twice isn't the end of the world.

        so long as communication is open and honest your partner should never feel bad about this.

        He never said he felt bad. You're reading into things that's not there.

        3 votes
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          Gaywallet
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          Apologies if I came off as accusatory. I did not mean to imply that this was bad behavior. I was just curious about how this was accomplished. That wasn't meant to be a jab at how he should feel,...

          How about just accepting people are different and that faking it once or twice isn't the end of the world.

          Apologies if I came off as accusatory. I did not mean to imply that this was bad behavior. I was just curious about how this was accomplished.

          He never said he felt bad. You're reading into things that's not there.

          That wasn't meant to be a jab at how he should feel, just an observation based on the reasons I've heard of people faking.

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          1. elcuello
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            No harm done. I just read it differently but thanks for clearing it up.

            No harm done. I just read it differently but thanks for clearing it up.

            2 votes
  2. [3]
    JakeTheDog
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    It's a shame that there are people who feel the need to fake anything in a relationship with anyone. I don't see how this is a positive factor for feminism (especially in the cheaters case).

    It's a shame that there are people who feel the need to fake anything in a relationship with anyone. I don't see how this is a positive factor for feminism (especially in the cheaters case).

    2 votes
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      ibis
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      I don’t understand the point you are making about feminism. The article suggests that women who are anti-feminist fake orgasms, and the woman who cheated said that she does not identify as feminist.

      I don’t understand the point you are making about feminism. The article suggests that women who are anti-feminist fake orgasms, and the woman who cheated said that she does not identify as feminist.

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      1. JakeTheDog
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        Ah, my bad. I read it in reverse. At any rate, what are we to make of this?

        Ah, my bad. I read it in reverse.

        At any rate, what are we to make of this?