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End of the office: The quiet, grinding loneliness of working from home

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  1. [6]
    knocklessmonster
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    It would be interesting to see a middle model: Business maintain a smaller footprint, and allow people to come in to the office as they choose. Those who want to stay home can, those who must be...

    It would be interesting to see a middle model: Business maintain a smaller footprint, and allow people to come in to the office as they choose. Those who want to stay home can, those who must be in the office will be able to come in. Obviously, not everybody will be happy with everybody coming in, or everybody staying home after the pandemic, and one's productivity is likely tied to their willingness to work in given conditions.

    5 votes
    1. [3]
      sausage
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      This is what we do in a company I work for, albeit we are just 100 people. We advertise the job as fully remote and we have employees in six countries around the globe, but we operate two offices...

      This is what we do in a company I work for, albeit we are just 100 people. We advertise the job as fully remote and we have employees in six countries around the globe, but we operate two offices that employees can go in as little or as often as they want. We're opening another, smaller office in another country for those employees next month also.

      I for one have been working from home for around a 8 years and enjoy it as I am privileged enough to have the space to do so. I do like going to the office in this country on occassion, but in reality I prefer to stay out of the capital city. Some of my colleagues much prefer a place to go to and you will often find them in the office.

      Interestingly, one countries employees in particular seem to prefer to be in the office 5 days a week. I'd assume it's a mix of cultural and socioeconomics that play a part in the decisions to work from home more or less.

      Anyway, the freedom to choose is a really nice touch.

      e: typo

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      1. [2]
        Silbern
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        That sounds like the absolute dream. Not only because it makes scheduling and the like so much easier, but also because different kinds of work are easier to do it in different environments. When...

        That sounds like the absolute dream. Not only because it makes scheduling and the like so much easier, but also because different kinds of work are easier to do it in different environments. When working cooperatively, it's so much easier and more natural to do it in person, but for just grinding away at a task on my own, the peace and quite of my own house or apartment can't be beat. Seems like a wonderful place to work, and you're indeed super lucky! :)

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        1. sausage
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          Definitely lucky. I have been with the company from essentially the beginning courtesy of being in the right place at the right time and knowing somebody who was dating the founder. I have been...

          Definitely lucky. I have been with the company from essentially the beginning courtesy of being in the right place at the right time and knowing somebody who was dating the founder. I have been able to help shape the direction the company has taken, which has been both fun and painful. We believe in the freedom to allow people to work in the way they want to work and we have a self-motivated, self-organising philosophy coupled with a novel organisational structure.

          I would be lying if I didn't say there were some large pain points though; things such as decision-making, decentralisation from the founder, autonomy and to some extent personal development can often be found lacking. But we are growing, aware of our flaws and try and put things in place to resolve them.

          All said and done, I am here still after 8 years and I don't intend to leave anytime soon!

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    2. jprich
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      I'm one who prefers to be in the office. There's too much to distract me at home. At the office I can focus. Once this is over (next year sometime in the states) I'm sure my job will be rushing to...

      I'm one who prefers to be in the office. There's too much to distract me at home. At the office I can focus.
      Once this is over (next year sometime in the states) I'm sure my job will be rushing to get people back into the office. Not gonna lie. Its been nice having the entire floor to myself for three months.

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    3. AugustusFerdinand
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      This is what the company I work for is incredibly likely to adopt. We moved to fully work from home in March and aren't even entertaining the idea of opening the office back up to people that want...

      This is what the company I work for is incredibly likely to adopt. We moved to fully work from home in March and aren't even entertaining the idea of opening the office back up to people that want or need to go in until mid-August. I was speaking with our CEO and he was surprised at how well the entire company adjusted to it and is making him "rethink how we conduct business going forward." Which has since been applied in new policies stating that WFH will be available as an option to all employees instead of just those that aren't in our geographic area. I'm expecting that we will either move offices again or simply use the hopefully downward trend in commercial rent as an advantage come time to sign a new lease. We only recently moved into a much larger office, to have room as we've been growing rapidly, and all of the costs associated with the move and acquiring furniture for the space. Had this happened a year or so ago, I think we'd have avoided that cost entirely and just found a space that met the basics for C-level offices, rooms for meeting with clients, and some offices/cubes for people that want/need to come to the office.

      I've been working from home for a few years now and simply will not go back to working in an office full time.

  2. JXM
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    I've been in a weird middle ground since March. I work in live video production, so a lot of my work can't be done remotely. I've been going in to work at least once or twice a week since this all...

    I've been in a weird middle ground since March. I work in live video production, so a lot of my work can't be done remotely. I've been going in to work at least once or twice a week since this all begin. I go in, do what I need to do and then leave.

    Out of maybe 50 people on my floor, the most I've seen in at one time is 5 people.

    And it honestly hasn't caused too much of a disruption in work. I'd love it if we kept this up full time (for my department, at least). It's a lot easier to get work done from home and then go when I need to. I get all the benefits of working from home and none of the social anxiety from lack of interacting with people.

    2 votes
  3. [4]
    bloup
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    I feel like instead of work from home, we could just have a general notion of remote work, and if you want to just get out of the house you could simply head down to the local public library. You...

    I feel like instead of work from home, we could just have a general notion of remote work, and if you want to just get out of the house you could simply head down to the local public library. You could even have “co-workers” doing their own remote work for different organizations there with you.

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    1. [3]
      TheRtRevKaiser
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      I'm not sure most public libraries are very well set up for remote work, especially if workers need to be in voice or video meetings. I've had to use one once (I was working remotely while taking...

      I'm not sure most public libraries are very well set up for remote work, especially if workers need to be in voice or video meetings. I've had to use one once (I was working remotely while taking a long vacation), and it was not ideal. They didn't really have any space that worked well for the purpose, and there's an expectation that you won't make noise and disturb other patrons at most libraries.

      I do think that we will probably see a spread of dedicated telework spaces in the next decade. I think there are already places where you can rent a cubical or conference room, although I suspect right now they are mostly in bigger cities.

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      1. AugustusFerdinand
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        There is, thankfully, no standard to library design and amenities; however many public libraries have closed off spaces specifically for calls, video conferencing, recording, and the like. I'd...

        There is, thankfully, no standard to library design and amenities; however many public libraries have closed off spaces specifically for calls, video conferencing, recording, and the like. I'd much prefer funds be spent on public spaces like libraries to have these amenities than commercial telework spaces.

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      2. bloup
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        I guess your mileage my vary, but literally every public library around where I live lets you reserve independent or small group study rooms where you can make pretty much as much noise as you...

        I guess your mileage my vary, but literally every public library around where I live lets you reserve independent or small group study rooms where you can make pretty much as much noise as you need to.

        For what it’s worth, I am self employed and frequently have used the public library as a “base of operations” (until the pandemic, anyway).

        Also, I really don’t want to see people having to pay rent out of pocket just to do work for their employer, which is something i find very concerning with the rise of privately owned teleworking spaces.

        3 votes