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A look at the future of abortion from Colorado

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    The discussion of the motivations for abortion-rights opponents and abortion-rights supporters is an interesting point to consider if you want to affect change within the people representing these...

    The discussion of the motivations for abortion-rights opponents and abortion-rights supporters is an interesting point to consider if you want to affect change within the people representing these ideas on what should be okay. As with many things for different groups, specific issues seem to sometimes lean towards the symbolic. That might seem to undercut the seriousness of strict abortion-rights opponents but figuring out why a group of people support an idea usually isn't as simple as taking them at their word.

    Does anything think this is a valid approach?

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      There’s a vivid discussion towards a more inclusive notion of what constitutes consciousness, while at the same time some people make concerted efforts to demonstrate that fetuses are not actually...

      There’s a vivid discussion towards a more inclusive notion of what constitutes consciousness, while at the same time some people make concerted efforts to demonstrate that fetuses are not actually conscious creatures. It seems to me that fetuses definitely are living conscious creatures, and their connection to a human carrier is a temporary simbioses. So many of the pro abortion rights arguments are unsound. They exist as rhetorical instruments in a context of political dispute.

      That said, I don’t think anyone is really pro abortion. There are many indications that providing mothers with options (including the option to abort) and unrestricted support can actually reduce the number of abortions and deaths as a whole. I am in favor of the decriminalization of abortion from a practical standpoint. No one really thinks interrupting pregnancies is a wonderful thing, but, in an apparent contradiction, prohibiting abortion can lead to its increase, as well as a number of harmful consequences for the mothers.

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          While I sympathize with the fact that giving birth can be a traumatic experience, I’m inclined to favor the permanence of two lives instead of one. I would be similarly inclined in the other...

          While I sympathize with the fact that conceiving giving birth can be a traumatic experience, I’m inclined to favor the permanence of two lives instead of one.

          I would be similarly inclined in the other example.

          I tend to prefer the options in which more people live.

          On the other hand, I don’t think the behavior that might secure these desirable outcomes should be enforced by criminal law.

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              I’m sorry, my English is incomplete. I actually meant “giving birth”.

              I’m sorry, my English is incomplete. I actually meant “giving birth”.

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    I'm happy that the proposition got a beat down. Tbh, even if late term abortions are generally performed on wanted pregnancies that turn out to have complications, it is not anyone's business but...

    I'm happy that the proposition got a beat down. Tbh, even if late term abortions are generally performed on wanted pregnancies that turn out to have complications, it is not anyone's business but the person who is carrying and their doctor. It's a complicated thing already and I'm sure it's never an easy choice, but here in Colorado, we've secured people the chance to make that choice.

    There have been several instances of propiditions on limiting abortion in Colorado and they have the tendency to fail in the last decade/half-decade or so, and I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the majority blue urban centers. The future holds probably not much more than pro-lifers getting more propositions on the ballot and it either passing or failing. In the mean time, they'll be preaching about those poor, unborn potential humans. And the percentage of us who can carry babies will hopefully be snug in the fact that we get a choice for a few more years.

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