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As women become 60% of all US college students and continue to outpace and outperform men, the WSJ takes a look at how colleges and students feel about it
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- Title
- A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: 'I Just Feel Lost'
- Authors
- Biography
- Published
- Sep 6 2021
- Word count
- 80 words
Although the comments in this thread are not really that bad I feel that most of them fall into gender essentialism, "it makes sense that men are not enrolling into college because men are X or do Y", imagine if women never got the push to get into STEAM "because they are just bad at math and science".
Do men naturally take more risks than women, or they are expected to have higher incomes and a stable financial situation which push them to seek high risk high rewards opportunities?
Do men naturally avoid caretakers roles or they avoid them because they don't want to be labelled as sexual predators if they work with children, do they avoid them because they don't pay as much, or is something else?
Do men develop mentally and emotionally slower than women or it is assumed that they will do ok just because they are men, which leaves them to figure things on their own, sometimes with bad results.
Archive.is link, because the actual article is about 2500 words long.
An article about how there are more women in college and how they're doing better than men.
It seems like this is the core of the problem. In the past, the idea that women could be better than men at anything other than the stuff women were/are assigned to do was unthinkable, and now one of, if not the first examplee of women doing objectively better than men somewhere for reasons other than being forced into doing that by gender roles imposed on them. Some consider just doing the same things they did & do for minorities, or various forms of affirmative action and support, but politically those programs and ideas have always been for minorities because they were the ones facing discrimination so doing that obviously won't be seen as progressive even if you use the same methods.
One thing worth noting though is that apparently the amount of men enrolling in college hasn't actually gotten lower as per the actual headline of the article, more so that women's enrollment has kept getting higher and is increasing faster than men.
Just spitballing here so feel free to disagree but even among people from backgrounds most likely to enroll in post-secondary in my experience I feel like there is a larger segment of men vs women who try to, often to their detriment, "outsmart" conventional wisdom. When the popular refrain is that college is oversold (and depending on the field there is definitely truth to that) it makes sense to me that enrollment by people looking to 'get ahead' would be down -- which my gut tells me would favour men.
Related to that, men are less likely to become caretakers. Either for the young, the old, the sick, and the fragile -- women generally fulfill this essential task. Women are taking up our slack, so to speak, so men are free for other pursuits.
I observe similar among people I know and concur: men tend to chase risk more. Leads to some good things like big career payoffs; it also leads to some bad things like a significantly higher death-by-injury rate.
I had a very racially and gender-mixed network of friends and acquaintances in high school. I'm about 10 years out of high school now. It's very curious how the men I knew have a wider distribution of outcomes than the women I knew.
Looking at the men I knew
Looking at the women I knew
But this is a limited dataset of like 100 or so people in my high school network.
One thing I’ve seen mentioned in r/professors is that male brains tend to develop slower than female brains, I.e., a 20 year-old woman is more mature and better equipped to handle college courses than a 20 year-old man. This difference at a critical time means women have a bit of an edge in the classroom.
I’d be curious to see if this is different in countries with military conscription. I know the phenomenon is global, but I wonder if countries like Finland, Israel, and Switzerland have a narrower gap than others.
What is the college enrollment difference by sex in other countries?