19 votes

Why It's Already 2020 - Tom Scott

17 comments

  1. HanakoIsBestGirl
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    Tom never fails to point out a programming error or edge case that I would never have thought of!

    Tom never fails to point out a programming error or edge case that I would never have thought of!

    10 votes
  2. [16]
    ali
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    Only partially related, but I find it sad how much or YouTube videos nowadays is just ads. Here it even makes up the last fourth of the video.

    Only partially related, but I find it sad how much or YouTube videos nowadays is just ads. Here it even makes up the last fourth of the video.

    3 votes
    1. [8]
      jtvjan
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      There's an add-on called SponsorBlock which will automatically skip past ads. The timings for when ads start and end are crowdsourced. I've yet to come across a video where someone hasn't added...

      There's an add-on called SponsorBlock which will automatically skip past ads. The timings for when ads start and end are crowdsourced. I've yet to come across a video where someone hasn't added them already.

      7 votes
      1. [6]
        babypuncher
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        Seems like a shitty thing to do seeing as many YouTubers rely on those sponsorships to eat.

        Seems like a shitty thing to do seeing as many YouTubers rely on those sponsorships to eat.

        5 votes
        1. Thrabalen
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          YouTubers who rely on actual ad monetization are like Motown singers relying on their contracts to be fair. Videos are so often demonetized that more often than not the money goes straight to...

          YouTubers who rely on actual ad monetization are like Motown singers relying on their contracts to be fair. Videos are so often demonetized that more often than not the money goes straight to corporates. Which is why most YouTubers rely on things like Patreon.

          In the case of actual sponsorship, most of the time a video is fairly clear about who sponsors them before the actual ad comes up.

          3 votes
        2. [4]
          pseudolobster
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          Do the sponsors know if people skip the segment? Do they even pay residuals on the number of views? Or is it just a lump sum up front based on their number of subscribers? I'm inclined to believe...

          Do the sponsors know if people skip the segment? Do they even pay residuals on the number of views? Or is it just a lump sum up front based on their number of subscribers? I'm inclined to believe it's the latter, and the only residuals people get from these sponsors is through coupon codes.

          3 votes
          1. [3]
            babypuncher
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            I'm sure sponsors are always doing their research and finding out just what ratio of views result in impressions and adjust contract prices accordingly.

            I'm sure sponsors are always doing their research and finding out just what ratio of views result in impressions and adjust contract prices accordingly.

            1. [2]
              pseudolobster
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              The only person who'd know if the sponsor segments was skipped is the uploader. I do think youtube collects that info and presents it in the uploader's dashboard, but unless the uploader is giving...

              The only person who'd know if the sponsor segments was skipped is the uploader. I do think youtube collects that info and presents it in the uploader's dashboard, but unless the uploader is giving their login credentials to the sponsor, I can't see how they'd know how many people fast-forward through that section of the video.

              (that's how this addon works, btw, automatically fast-forwarding past the sponsor shoutout, as tagged by the community)

              1 vote
              1. babypuncher
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                Sponsors usually have YouTubers include referral codes or links to track how effective their sponsorship is. If a sponsorship isn't effective, then there isn't much of a reason to keep giving that...

                Sponsors usually have YouTubers include referral codes or links to track how effective their sponsorship is. If a sponsorship isn't effective, then there isn't much of a reason to keep giving that YouTuber a lot of money. Companies don't like randomly handing out money without verifying that there is a return on their investment.

                1 vote
      2. cfabbro
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        LFTL - Firefox, Chrome p.s. I tested it (on Firefox) on a few videos that I knew had sponsor segments, and it worked great on all of them. Thanks!

        LFTL - Firefox, Chrome

        p.s. I tested it (on Firefox) on a few videos that I knew had sponsor segments, and it worked great on all of them. Thanks!

        2 votes
    2. Kuromantis
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      Unfortunately sponsorhips are a consistent revenue stream, which is very uncommon in YouTube with demonetization in full swing and revenue being anywhere from 30 cents to 5 dollars per thousand...

      Unfortunately sponsorhips are a consistent revenue stream, which is very uncommon in YouTube with demonetization in full swing and revenue being anywhere from 30 cents to 5 dollars per thousand views, so It's probably inevitable YouTubers will do it until a solution is implemented somewhere.

      2 votes
    3. [6]
      milkbones_4_bigelow
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      @ali, give invidious a try. Just pass the YouTube id like so, https://invidio.us/watch?v=D3jxx8Yyw1c. Hope that helps :)

      @ali, give invidious a try. Just pass the YouTube id like so, https://invidio.us/watch?v=D3jxx8Yyw1c. Hope that helps :)

      1 vote
      1. [5]
        casimiria
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        He is not talking about youtube ads. Last fourth of the video is an ad. Also you don't have to @ users when replying, tildes sends a notification.

        He is not talking about youtube ads. Last fourth of the video is an ad.

        Also you don't have to @ users when replying, tildes sends a notification.

        5 votes
        1. [4]
          milkbones_4_bigelow
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          Apologies, I just saw the same, whatever the case, invidious is a nice alternative for avoiding non imbedded ads. Thanks for the note re using @.

          Apologies, I just saw the same, whatever the case, invidious is a nice alternative for avoiding non imbedded ads. Thanks for the note re using @.

          1. [3]
            mat
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            There is an argument which says this problem is caused by people using adblockers and other avoidance services. In order to make money, professional Youtubers like Scott have no choice but to turn...

            There is an argument which says this problem is caused by people using adblockers and other avoidance services. In order to make money, professional Youtubers like Scott have no choice but to turn to sponsorship deals, which personally I find much more annoying than just watching a few pre/post roll adverts.

            I won't use an adblocker because I want to support the content creators who make the content I like.

            4 votes
            1. Sand
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              I doubt the use of adblockers is that significant. Ads just aren't very profitable on Youtube.

              I doubt the use of adblockers is that significant. Ads just aren't very profitable on Youtube.

              3 votes
            2. milkbones_4_bigelow
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              That's fair and should absolutely be taken into account, I'm just sceptical advertising is the answer. My own take is that content creators and viewers should canvas for more sustainable...

              That's fair and should absolutely be taken into account, I'm just sceptical advertising is the answer. My own take is that content creators and viewers should canvas for more sustainable models/platforms, e.g what Tildes is attempting. In my case using a 3rd party is rather geared towards avoidance of a platform that shows little respect for its users. Invidious has some features that I think are better geared towards that.

              • Free software (AGPLv3 licensed)
              • No need to create a Google account to save subscriptions
              • Lightweight (homepage is ~4 KB compressed)
              • Does not require JS to play videos
              • Support for Reddit comments in place of YT comments
              1 vote