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  1. Turtle
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    Literally a Fox-tier propaganda piece, but ok. See: Reductio ad Hitlerum, or, "You know who else was against tobacco smoking?"

    Literally a Fox-tier propaganda piece, but ok.
    See: Reductio ad Hitlerum, or, "You know who else was against tobacco smoking?"

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  2. BuckeyeSundae
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    CNN likes its drama. Not sure this article is particularly good commentary. The question I start off with, which undermines Cillizza's main point, is whether Trump regularly defends Sanders at...

    CNN likes its drama.

    Not sure this article is particularly good commentary. The question I start off with, which undermines Cillizza's main point, is whether Trump regularly defends Sanders at all. Especially since he's trying to insult the guy in the main example Cillizza brings up, while "defending" him.

    Look, it's to Trump's benefit if Democrats end this primary cycle with more deep loathing for one another because people who are alienated enough from the party might become Trump supporters (or, just as well, not vote at all). It's not too hard to figure out. Russia's strategy is about the same if you're paying attention (support candidates in a way that enhances division and partisanship; the more at odds americans are with each other, the less they will likely think about Russia at all).

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    Flashynuff
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    maybe he thinks Bernie would be difficult to face and is trying to get the rest of the Dem establishment to attack Bernie and nominate someone weaker instead.

    maybe he thinks Bernie would be difficult to face and is trying to get the rest of the Dem establishment to attack Bernie and nominate someone weaker instead.

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    1. moocow1452
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      Occam's razor would say that he thinks Sanders is a weaker opponent, or he likes having the nominee at odds with the main party.

      Occam's razor would say that he thinks Sanders is a weaker opponent, or he likes having the nominee at odds with the main party.

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    Bullmaestro
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    A theory I heard: Trump low-key doesn't want to be president and ran his previous campaign purely for the publicity; not expecting to actually beat Hillary Clinton. Maybe he's praising Sanders...

    A theory I heard: Trump low-key doesn't want to be president and ran his previous campaign purely for the publicity; not expecting to actually beat Hillary Clinton.

    Maybe he's praising Sanders because he knows that he is the one that can beat him and become the 46th POTUS.

    1. BuckeyeSundae
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      The trouble with this theory is that if Trump truly didn't want to be President, all he would have to do is ... resign. No one is forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do. He chooses to...

      The trouble with this theory is that if Trump truly didn't want to be President, all he would have to do is ... resign. No one is forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do. He chooses to continue to do so. I can only surmise that, like a lot of what he says in social media and along the lines of a bunch of reporting about Trump's thinking from within the Oval Office, he sees himself as genuinely the representative for his fiercest supporters, and what they love about him is his himselfness (i.e., his ego and inability to admit fault).

      I think he wanted and still wants to be president. He has always struck me as the sort of guy who eats the shit he peddles to others about himself. He thinks he is the greatest, with the best mind, the best words, whatever. He thinks has the best, healthiest body, no matter how obviously wrong that is to just about any other observer. And anyone who doesn't agree with him is not likely to stay long in his administration, especially these days.

      But more problematic is that this theory would have Trump (probably falsely) hold a role similar to Cincinnatus, which was the model Washington used to justify his stepping down after a measly 8 years in office. This mythological Roman figure was (and I would say still is) so important to the American understanding of propriety that we named a damn city after him, and any time a politician can appear to be working in the same mold, it is sure to get some following. Not only do I not think this applies to Trump (he is pretty obviously egomaniacal at minimum), but I think trying to apply it to Trump is tactically helpful to Trump and his supporters.

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