9 votes

How asymmetrical polarization has changed American politics

10 comments

  1. Kuromantis
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    A video showing that the Republican party is now unwilling to compromise and how media outlets rephrasing that as a both sides problem is bad.

    A video showing that the Republican party is now unwilling to compromise and how media outlets rephrasing that as a both sides problem is bad.

    3 votes
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    vakieh
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    No, I think the Republican party is perfectly willing to compromise, but nobody is making them compromise so why would they? If you can get 100% of the things you want and give 0%, it doesn't make...

    No, I think the Republican party is perfectly willing to compromise, but nobody is making them compromise so why would they? If you can get 100% of the things you want and give 0%, it doesn't make rational sense to give even 99%.

    If the other side is willing to go 50:50 and you go 100:0, you get 150 and they get 50. You win.

    This can't be fixed from the side of the 100, only the 50. They can either go 100 themselves, or grow the balls to force compromise on the other side.

    7 votes
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      vord
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      To me that just sounds like a rephrasing of "One side is willing to compromise, the other isn't."

      If the other side is willing to go 50:50 and you go 100:0, you get 150 and they get 50. You win.

      To me that just sounds like a rephrasing of "One side is willing to compromise, the other isn't."

      10 votes
      1. vakieh
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        Not if the 100:0 comes about because the 0 side says "ok" and walks away with zero.

        Not if the 100:0 comes about because the 0 side says "ok" and walks away with zero.

        2 votes
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      skybrian
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      I didn't watch the video, but it seems like the House plan had a lot of unrelated wishlist items? Perhaps they were there to be bargained away. Sometimes in politics, things aren't what they seem.

      I didn't watch the video, but it seems like the House plan had a lot of unrelated wishlist items?

      Perhaps they were there to be bargained away. Sometimes in politics, things aren't what they seem.

      2 votes
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        Algernon_Asimov
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        I suggest you do watch the video for yourself. @vakieh's comment doesn't even come close to addressing what the video is about.

        I suggest you do watch the video for yourself. @vakieh's comment doesn't even come close to addressing what the video is about.

        1. skybrian
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          I have a firm policy of never watching TV news or political videos. I probably shouldn't have commented.

          I have a firm policy of never watching TV news or political videos. I probably shouldn't have commented.

    3. babypuncher
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      Isn't this exactly what we just saw with the stimulus bill? Chuck Schumer got basically everything he asked for in it.

      Isn't this exactly what we just saw with the stimulus bill? Chuck Schumer got basically everything he asked for in it.

      2 votes
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      Algernon_Asimov
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      This is the problem with bad titles on posts. People like @vakieh respond to the title, rather than the content (it's obvious you didn't watch the video: if you had, I doubt you would have...

      This is the problem with bad titles on posts. People like @vakieh respond to the title, rather than the content (it's obvious you didn't watch the video: if you had, I doubt you would have commented in this way).

      @Kuromantis: I've changed your title to make it less likely to attract off-topic comments like this one.

      2 votes
      1. vakieh
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        The hell do you know about what I have or haven't watched - the video is talking about the exact problem I talked about, which is why I talked about it. Kavanaugh got in because a Democrat voted...

        The hell do you know about what I have or haven't watched - the video is talking about the exact problem I talked about, which is why I talked about it. Kavanaugh got in because a Democrat voted them in. Nobody is holding Republicans to the standards they hold for others, which lets them get away with whatever they like, and supports the factions of the party willing to do whatever they like.