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Internal fighting among gun owners has led to one of the dumbest memes of all time
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- Title
- Here's Why Men Are Pointing Loaded Guns at Their Crotches
- Published
- May 27 2020
- Word count
- 929 words
Ain’t that the truth.
Um, this article seems to be making some basic errors in gun nut jargon. There isn't a "normie" and "Fudd" dichotomy. The Fudds are the normies. It's a derogatory name given to gun owners who view guns as tools for hunting and stuff. It's an insult thrown at normal people by the tacticool, ammosexual crowd. To them, any gun owner who doesn't crow on and on about the 2nd Amendment and insist on everyone's right to own an assault rifle is a Fudd. It's the gun nut version of a "fake anime fan."
But this article seems to conflate Fudds with ammosexuals.
That seems plausible but when it comes to insults I would bet on things getting increasingly confused to the point where they don't mean anything specific? But I know nothing.
Just wondering, where do you learn about this stuff?
No, they're specific, but like many niche groups the verbiage used will be confusing to outsiders (see: any competitive game specific group). @NaraVara is very much correct, the author doesn't know the jargon or names of subgroups within gun groups.
I grew up in a somewhat rural area. Pretty used to the discourse around guns.
sounds kind of similar to the "form" circlejerk in a lot of fitness communities.
any time any impressive feat of strength (usually by a woman) makes it to the front page of r/all, a bunch of people who've never lifted in their lives shit all over it because of "poor form" or accuse them of steroids or "hehe i can't even a tenth of that :3" because that's about the depth of their superficial knowledge of lifting.
also oftentimes when people start they're given the advice to start with the bar until they get "perfect form," ignoring that everyone's bodies and leverages are different and that form is mostly unconnected to injury.
so in response, the fitness analogue of "fuddies" have intentionally posted dangerous-looking lifts (they deleted the video but here's a demo of it) for what I imagine are similar reasons to the "fuddies" posting the dick-gun pictures.
if the "form" comments weren't posted in such a matter-of-fact way or so many times I don't think it'd be a problem but I can see how it can get annoying to someone who's been in those communities for a while.
And this is my excuse for not doing much strength training. It seems like with many mainstream activities the fads and bullshit make it pretty hard to figure out where to get solid advice.
The online meme generation process seems to accelerate this descent into noise.
i'd highly recommend the r/fitness wiki as a basic resource (it's one of the best fitness resources on the internet), Stronger by Science for the articles, and lurking r/weightroom and r/fitnesscirclejerk to get a sense of the opinions of people who know what they're talking about (instead of people like me who've only been lifting for a few months haha)
Uh, thanks, but how do we know that they know what they're talking about? Finding people pushing strong opinions is easy.
for stronger by science: the main guy, Greg Nuckols is a "competitive powerlifter with several all-time, drug-free records in the 220 and 242 weight classes, including best competition lifts of 750 on the squat, 425 bench press, and 710 deadlift." he's also been coaching for over a decade, has a bachelors in exercise science and the articles often link several studies to back up their claims and are honest if the evidence looks weak. here's a comment by him on the same topic.
for r/weightroom: a lot of strong or knowledgeable people congregate there, like the creators of popular programs (guy who made GZCLP, nSuns, Phrakture's program, etc.) and super strong guys like mythicalstrength. they post articles from people who know what they're talking about like Jim Wendler, Stronger by Science and Barbell Medicine and generally have pretty high quality discussion in the comments. in "weakpoint wednesdays," where people discuss various specified topics every week, the top comments are required to post "credentials," usually in the form of a picture of their physique if it's a discussion on some aesthetic weakpoint, or their lifts if it's on a specific lift/muscle group. they also sometimes hold ama's from people who've accomplished something huge, or people who know what they're talking about like the previously mentioned Jim Wendler
for thefitness.wiki: it's made by the current mod of r/weightroom and r/fitness and supports common sentiments i've heard on the various resources i've already linked. also, they explain their reasoning behind their recommendation in clear terms so you could research the claims yourself if you'd like. also links studies where appropriate like here if you want to evaluate the claims yourself.
for r/fitnesscirclejerk: it's mostly strong and experienced people there linking and making fun of stupid posts they see on r/fitness, and those same people hang around r/weightroom and other subs I trust. some notable strong examples: u/ZBGBs, u/magic_warlock0- (second guy deadlifts over 850lbs. there are probably under 100 people in the whole world who can do that).
ultimately it's up to you to evaluate and decide whether you trust any of these. I trust them because they're all part of the same "sphere" of people who seem to be strong, have done this for a while and have the credentials to back that up.
also, the worst thing you could do for your fitness is nothing at all. even if it's suboptimal, doing anything is better than nothing. don't get caught up in analysis paralysis. getting stronger is simple. there's a reason big people are called "meatheads" or "gymbros" — it doesn't take all that much intellect. getting stronger is simple but hard.
I trust these resources because they worked for a lot of people and they're supported by strong people and by what little current science there is, which is really all you can do.
Sounds like a good way to wind up with a Darwin award.