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A top Democratic analytics firm warns: it's likely that Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted

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  1. [4]
    dubteedub
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    This headline is pretty misleading since the first line of the article is actually: It is not that Trump will have actually won, it is just that with COVID so many people are going to mail in...

    This headline is pretty misleading since the first line of the article is actually:

    A top Democratic data and analytics firm told "Axios on HBO" it's highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted.

    It is not that Trump will have actually won, it is just that with COVID so many people are going to mail in their ballots and the in-person results / limited count of absentee ballots on election night may show that Trump is massively ahead.

    This is a scenario that people have been warning about for months and is a key reason why Trump is both trying to fuck with the post office and demonize mail in ballots. His goal is to sow enough doubt and misinformation to have people question the election results if he loses and will likely lead to massive amounts of street violence in the country.

    It is also why people have been shouting for weeks begging people to request their mail in ballots as early as possible (NOW) and return them right away to ensure that your vote is counted.

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    1. arghdos
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      If I only lived in a state that allowed me to vote by mail -.- First day of early voting here is Oct. 13th. The list of polling locations won't even be made available until the 11th!

      It is also why people have been shouting for weeks begging people to request their mail in ballots as early as possible (NOW) and return them right away to ensure that your vote is counted.

      If I only lived in a state that allowed me to vote by mail -.-

      First day of early voting here is Oct. 13th. The list of polling locations won't even be made available until the 11th!

      13 votes
    2. [2]
      vord
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      I mean, I hope the reverse would be true as well. If Trump wins, decency has failed, if not 'democracy' itself. It's obvious that every measure to limit Trump (and all other Repblicans enabling...

      His goal is to sow enough doubt and misinformation to have people question the election results if he loses and will likely lead to massive amounts of street violence in the country.

      I mean, I hope the reverse would be true as well. If Trump wins, decency has failed, if not 'democracy' itself.

      It's obvious that every measure to limit Trump (and all other Repblicans enabling him) has failed.

      Everyone tells me about how 4 more years of Trump isn't acceptable at any cost. So what do we do when the system utterly fails (again)?

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      1. PahoojyMan
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        Just have a tea party.

        So what do we do when the system utterly fails (again)?

        Just have a tea party.

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  2. Eabryt
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    I've lived in NC for 4 years now and one of the things I've actually been impressed with is how easy it is to vote early in person, it's what I always do and will be doing again when early...

    I've lived in NC for 4 years now and one of the things I've actually been impressed with is how easy it is to vote early in person, it's what I always do and will be doing again when early in-person voting starts on October 15th.

    Of course, absentee voting in NC seems prohibitively difficult, you have to print out and mail in a request form, then you are supposed to have two witnesses for the ballot itself. It sounds like they're trying to make changes to that process this year, but I'm not even going to bother with it.

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