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New Zealand Maori carver Twitch streamer gets a visit from Prime Minister "Auntie" Jacinda Ardern

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  1. [8]
    Omnicrola
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    This is so wholesome I could cry. Because NZ has such a nice Auntie who actually gives a shit. Meanwhile, I'm over here with "Uncle" Trump, who we're all baffled as to why nobody has arrested yet.

    This is so wholesome I could cry. Because NZ has such a nice Auntie who actually gives a shit. Meanwhile, I'm over here with "Uncle" Trump, who we're all baffled as to why nobody has arrested yet.

    12 votes
    1. [6]
      TildeMan
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      It's not really fair to make this comparison when new zeland has less than 2% the population of the United States. For a more apt comparison, look at your local representitives (which, at least...

      It's not really fair to make this comparison when new zeland has less than 2% the population of the United States. For a more apt comparison, look at your local representitives (which, at least where I live, do things like this all the time)

      3 votes
      1. [3]
        emdash
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        Never understood the population argument, other than as a good indicator that having more people isn't always a positive. A prime minister of a country by necessity usually has to deal with a lot...

        Never understood the population argument, other than as a good indicator that having more people isn't always a positive. A prime minister of a country by necessity usually has to deal with a lot of the same issues as any other global leader.

        Personally, I'm glad I live in a country with only 5 million people. It's much nicer.

        8 votes
        1. culturedleftfoot
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          Aren't you answering your own question here? It's much nicer in part because running an orgqnization/populace/state/nation/ of 1-10 million people is probably A LOT closer to the sweet spot of...

          Personally, I'm glad I live in a country with only 5 million people. It's much nicer.

          Aren't you answering your own question here? It's much nicer in part because running an orgqnization/populace/state/nation/ of 1-10 million people is probably A LOT closer to the sweet spot of effective, manageable, human government than 100+ million.

          5 votes
        2. wervenyt
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          In this particular case, it'd be a bit different for any president to do this sort of publicity. They would have to select one artisan out of many tribes and risk whataboutist backlash, or do a...

          In this particular case, it'd be a bit different for any president to do this sort of publicity. They would have to select one artisan out of many tribes and risk whataboutist backlash, or do a tour of many different artisans across the nation. It's not a real barrier, but it's the kind that does actually impact behaviour. With any other president than Trump, it would definitely be feasible, just tricky.

          2 votes
      2. aphoenix
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        I think the comparison that @Omnicrola made is completely fair. They didn't say "Adern does public interest stories, and Trump doesn't", which definitely would have been unfair. They wrote about...

        I think the comparison that @Omnicrola made is completely fair. They didn't say "Adern does public interest stories, and Trump doesn't", which definitely would have been unfair. They wrote about the obvious kindness that Adern shows - this is but a single example of it - and the obvious complete lack of kindness on the part of Trump.

        This is not because of his status as president. This is because he is an awful human being. He and his ilk idolize a lack of kindness and empathy. It is horrific that the United States is operating like this at this point in time.There's nothing unfair about comparing Trump to Adern. Trump's lack of basic humanity has nothing to do with the size of his country; it's entirely about the size of his ego, and his narcissism.

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      3. Omnicrola
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        I understand your point, however I think the comparison still stands as an apt illustration of the kind of basic human interaction that Trump is incapable of. I think that if we swapped the 2...

        I understand your point, however I think the comparison still stands as an apt illustration of the kind of basic human interaction that Trump is incapable of. I think that if we swapped the 2 leaders Jacinda would not stop trying to relate to the people in her country even if she did have less time for it, and Trump would not suddenly feel compelled to "waste" time talking to people who can't directly benefit him.

        5 votes
    2. jprich
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      No one is baffled anymore.

      No one is baffled anymore.

      1 vote
  2. [2]
    culturedleftfoot
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    I'd never heard of Broxh before and didn't have very much idea about Ardern either, and I'm glad to learn about them both today. Thanks for sharing!

    I'd never heard of Broxh before and didn't have very much idea about Ardern either, and I'm glad to learn about them both today. Thanks for sharing!

    4 votes
    1. Omnicrola
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      I first learned about her when she visited Stephen Colbert. And then he visited NZ and she picked him up from the airport and this happened.

      I first learned about her when she visited Stephen Colbert.

      And then he visited NZ and she picked him up from the airport and this happened.

      2 votes
  3. [3]
    emdash
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    It is very bizarre seeing the term "auntie" being used as a positive phrasing in this context. Out of the last three elected PM's we've had, two have been women, and "aunt" has usually become a...

    It is very bizarre seeing the term "auntie" being used as a positive phrasing in this context. Out of the last three elected PM's we've had, two have been women, and "aunt" has usually become a disparaging sexist term referencing the women leader of the centre-left party who is keen to increase regulation and lead us towards a "nanny state" in New Zealand politics—Helen Clark received this profusely during her role as PM.

    Of course, such arguments are of course nonsensical bollocks, but it's interesting to see an International use of the word with no clear link to being a deprecating term.

    3 votes
    1. [2]
      Omnicrola
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      It's not a usage I'm familiar with either, but given the context (the channel owner is clearly happy she visited) I assume it's a term of endearment. If not in NZ in general, maybe just in his...

      It's not a usage I'm familiar with either, but given the context (the channel owner is clearly happy she visited) I assume it's a term of endearment. If not in NZ in general, maybe just in his subculture?

      Hopefully someone who's more familiar with the island can explain.

      6 votes
      1. AugustusFerdinand
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        He specifically states in the video that it's a term of endearment.

        I assume it's a term of endearment. If not in NZ in general, maybe just in his subculture?

        He specifically states in the video that it's a term of endearment.

        2 votes