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Sonic The Hedgehog (2019) - Official Trailer

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  1. [3]
    zptc
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    If the rest of the movie is as tone-deaf as the music selection (what does Gangsta's Paradise have to do with Sonic?), I don't think this will even reach "so bad it's good" territory. The Pikachu...

    If the rest of the movie is as tone-deaf as the music selection (what does Gangsta's Paradise have to do with Sonic?), I don't think this will even reach "so bad it's good" territory.

    The Pikachu movie trailer made it at least look like someone who made the movie cared about the source material. This doesn't.

    25 votes
    1. emnii
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      I think the music selection is what bothers me the most. I don't know what this choice is about, and the trailer doesn't make the connection. Did someone spin a wheel and it landed on Gangsta's...

      I think the music selection is what bothers me the most. I don't know what this choice is about, and the trailer doesn't make the connection. Did someone spin a wheel and it landed on Gangsta's Paradise?

      This interpretation of Sonic also gives me skinny Mario vibes and it's very, very wrong.

      Jim Carrey being classic Jim Carrey is essentially the only thing I enjoyed, even if the writing he was given was awful.

      10 votes
    2. Brock_Knifemann
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      Sonic was big in the late 90s, right? So was Coolio and Gangsta's Paradise. It's all an attempt to tug on the ol' nostalgia hearstrings for those of us in the 30+ crowd. This is my own, highly...

      (what does Gangsta's Paradise have to do with Sonic?

      Sonic was big in the late 90s, right? So was Coolio and Gangsta's Paradise. It's all an attempt to tug on the ol' nostalgia hearstrings for those of us in the 30+ crowd.

      This is my own, highly subjective opinion, but it seems like they aren't confident that the film will attract enough viewers based on it's own merit.

      5 votes
  2. [2]
    zaarn
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    It's worse than I could have imagined in my deepest nightmares. A mutant meat puppet with thing dangly arms and human teeth under blue skin with needles. It looks like they tried to make it cute...

    It's worse than I could have imagined in my deepest nightmares. A mutant meat puppet with thing dangly arms and human teeth under blue skin with needles. It looks like they tried to make it cute but god damn is it sliding deep into uncanny valley.

    16 votes
    1. ainar-g
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      “Sliding”? It was born in it. Moulded by it.

      “Sliding”? It was born in it. Moulded by it.

      15 votes
  3. [4]
    alyaza
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    the art style here is what really sells this movie on probably being complete dogshit. who even greenlighted this, and how did someone not double check their work and tell them it looks ugly as fuck?

    the art style here is what really sells this movie on probably being complete dogshit. who even greenlighted this, and how did someone not double check their work and tell them it looks ugly as fuck?

    15 votes
    1. [3]
      dubteedub
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      I mean, just look at the director's and screenwriters' other credits. None of them have made anything close to a good movie in the past. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3794354/ I have no idea who...

      I mean, just look at the director's and screenwriters' other credits. None of them have made anything close to a good movie in the past.

      https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3794354/

      I have no idea who the audience is for this movie other than maybe kids too young to know better and adults watching it ironically.

      10 votes
      1. hamstergeddon
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        Yeah I don't really get it. The 20-30 somethings that grew up on Sonic aren't going to take kindly to..whatever this is. And while Sonic has consistently appeared in video games since the 90s, I...

        Yeah I don't really get it. The 20-30 somethings that grew up on Sonic aren't going to take kindly to..whatever this is. And while Sonic has consistently appeared in video games since the 90s, I don't think he's retained his popularity in the same way Pokemon or Mario have (due to insanely inconsistent game quality, imo).

        Compare it to Detective Pikachu. Kids love Pokemon and just from the trailer there's plenty there for the 20-30 somethings that grew up on it to enjoy. Pokemon has retained its popularity over the years, the humor seems witty, and the CGI doesn't look creepy.

        9 votes
      2. Cosmos
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        Jim Carrey is going to be the only reason people see this.

        Jim Carrey is going to be the only reason people see this.

        7 votes
  4. [3]
    balooga
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    Sonic Mania was such a refreshing change of pace for a Sonic game after decades of mostly terrible ones, I was briefly hopeful that there might be a future for the franchise. This is not it. Even...

    Sonic Mania was such a refreshing change of pace for a Sonic game after decades of mostly terrible ones, I was briefly hopeful that there might be a future for the franchise.

    This is not it.

    Even considering the phenomenal disappointment Sega has become since the Dreamcast years, I don't understand how this project was ever green-lit. No-name, bottom-of-the-barrel screenwriters and director; bizarre character designs that barely resemble existing art; and nonsensical casting and musical choices. It could've been so much better. It should've been.

    I get it, this is meant to be a low-budget cash grab capitalizing on '90s nostalgia and the buzz around Detective Pikachu. It's not highbrow cinema, it's a silly disposable comedy for little kids. I think I'm just bitter about how low one of my favorite video game heroes has fallen, and continues to fall, and Sega's apparent unwillingness to fix the situation. They were once one of the most innovative entertainment companies in the world, but all they seem to do these days is low-effort self-sabotage.

    12 votes
    1. Greg
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      Couldn't have said it better. I know it's just a profit driven media franchise really, but I'm surprised just how much this has disappointed me. We've gone from a kids cartoon with a great...

      Couldn't have said it better. I know it's just a profit driven media franchise really, but I'm surprised just how much this has disappointed me.

      We've gone from a kids cartoon with a great soundtrack and surprisingly mature storytelling (Sonic literally mounts a vigilante attack on a power station to take down the corrupt totalitarian government in the title sequence) to... this. There was so much potential, totally wasted.

      4 votes
    2. crdpa
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      Funny we are now entering 90s nostalgia territory. 80s nostalgia is already saturated. If we keep this up, we will approach recent years soon. Can't wait until we have past week's nostalgia movies...

      Funny we are now entering 90s nostalgia territory. 80s nostalgia is already saturated.

      If we keep this up, we will approach recent years soon. Can't wait until we have past week's nostalgia movies and series.

      1 vote
  5. [3]
    alyaza
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    it looks like sonic's design is to be changed, per director jeff fowler: what do you suppose the odds are that the character designers for this movie are going to have to work a bunch of overtime...

    it looks like sonic's design is to be changed, per director jeff fowler:

    “The message is loud and clear,” he said. “You aren’t happy with the design & you want changes. It’s going to happen. Everyone at Paramount & Sega are fully committed to making this character the BEST he can be.”

    what do you suppose the odds are that the character designers for this movie are going to have to work a bunch of overtime to make this work out the way it needs to in the time they have before release?

    7 votes
    1. CALICO
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      3D artists already work long hours for relatively little pay. A full design overhaul will mean starting from scratch. Concept art → Sculpting → Retopology → Rigging/Weight Painting → UV Unwrapping...

      3D artists already work long hours for relatively little pay.

      A full design overhaul will mean starting from scratch.
      Concept art → Sculpting → Retopology → Rigging/Weight Painting → UV Unwrapping → Texturing → Hair Sim → Lighting Tests → Animation → Compositing → Post-Production/VFX

      The animations might be able to be reworked for the new model, but if his silhouette varies too much it'll take a lot of work to adapt and they might need to animate from scratch. If his animations needs much reworking then the studio might need to hire additional animators as well. That's a lot of work to be done for an industry-standard result on a feature-length production in not all that much time.

      Expensive.

      3 votes
    2. Akir
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      To be honest, I really don't want this to happen. Literally the only reason I want to see this movie is to watch the trainwreck. We can finally get the perfect film to fill the gap of terribleness...

      To be honest, I really don't want this to happen. Literally the only reason I want to see this movie is to watch the trainwreck. We can finally get the perfect film to fill the gap of terribleness between Street Fighter The Movie - I think Jim Carry will be the M. Bison of this generation - and Dragonball Evolution, the only movie with a built-in audience it actively despises.

      2 votes
  6. culturedleftfoot
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    This doesn't do anything for me but erase any possible lingering doubt that we're firmly in the squeezing-blood-from-stone territory of '90s nostalgia. Well, that's not exactly true; it also makes...

    This doesn't do anything for me but erase any possible lingering doubt that we're firmly in the squeezing-blood-from-stone territory of '90s nostalgia. Well, that's not exactly true; it also makes me wonder if kids nowadays are even interested in the new incarnations of these older IPs. Like, who are they making the new Ninja Turtles stuff for, exactly?

    I can't help but wish these things were the death knell of the current Hollywood studio system.

    6 votes
  7. Grawlix
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    It just looks so tired. The jokes are bottom of the barrel (and yet the highlights from a script with five writers working on it), the animation is lifeless, and most of the acting looks like the...

    It just looks so tired. The jokes are bottom of the barrel (and yet the highlights from a script with five writers working on it), the animation is lifeless, and most of the acting looks like the people involved are phoning it in.

    Jim Carrey seems to be the only person who knows what kind of movie he's in, since he's at least hamming it up and chewing the scenery.

    ...and I have to admit I kind of like his outfit.

    Zero plans on actually watching this train wreck, but I look forward to when it inevitably gets featured on How Did This Get Made?

    6 votes
  8. ainar-g
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    I used to be a massive Sonic fan when I was younger. If I ever watch this film, it will be only because of Jim Carrey. He seems to give the Classic Jim Carrey Performance here. Everything else...

    I used to be a massive Sonic fan when I was younger. If I ever watch this film, it will be only because of Jim Carrey. He seems to give the Classic Jim Carrey Performance here. Everything else looks like a not-talented intern made it.

    5 votes
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    hamstergeddon
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    The most enjoyable part of that was watching a Neal McDonough character be taken down a peg, because after watching him be super serious and untouchable in Project Blue Book it's kind of...

    The most enjoyable part of that was watching a Neal McDonough character be taken down a peg, because after watching him be super serious and untouchable in Project Blue Book it's kind of hilarious. But aside from that super niche enjoyment, this looks kind of terrible. I realize I, an adult, am not the target audience, but this movie feels 20 years too late for there to be kids excited about a Sonic movie.

    4 votes
    1. culturedleftfoot
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      I can never unsee him as Quarles from Justified.

      I can never unsee him as Quarles from Justified.

      3 votes
  10. [2]
    Akir
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    Does anyone remember a few years ago there was a movie called Jem and the Holograms? It got a major Nationwide release but ended up being basically the worst trainwreck in motion picture history?...

    Does anyone remember a few years ago there was a movie called Jem and the Holograms? It got a major Nationwide release but ended up being basically the worst trainwreck in motion picture history?

    I see history repeating itself.

    4 votes
    1. cfabbro
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      I had never even heard of it before, but you weren't kidding. And I can see why it did so poorly, the trailer makes it looks like the most cliche-filled movie ever made. And the fact the tvtropes...

      Jem and the Holograms (film) - Budget $5 million

      Initially projected to gross $5 million in its opening weekend, projections were lowered to $3 million after only grossing $34,000 during its Thursday night previews ($36 per theater average). It ultimately opened fifteenth at the box office with $1.4 million, the worst opening of 2015, the fourth worst opening ever for a film screening in more than 2,000 theaters and the worst ever for a film released by a major studio.

      On November 10, 2015, just over two weeks after release, Universal removed Jem from theaters entirely, after grossing $2.2 million. Jason Guerrasio of Business Insider described the pull from theaters as "an unheard of move for a movie that was in theaters nationwide." -Source

      I had never even heard of it before, but you weren't kidding. And I can see why it did so poorly, the trailer makes it looks like the most cliche-filled movie ever made. And the fact the tvtropes "examples of" section for it is so bloody long speaks to the truth of that.

      5 votes
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    1. Greg
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      As Twitter demonstrated (and Yuji Naka, of all people, retweeted), it doesn't actually take that much to fix it while keeping the art style that the film decided on - even keeping the CGI would've...

      As Twitter demonstrated (and Yuji Naka, of all people, retweeted), it doesn't actually take that much to fix it while keeping the art style that the film decided on - even keeping the CGI would've been fine if they'd just vetoed that terrible design.

      4 votes
  12. [2]
    krg
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    Shitty video game movies are going to be made, so this doesn't exactly bother me. It does confuse me, though. Who thought there was a market for this one? Must be some kind of money laundering...

    Shitty video game movies are going to be made, so this doesn't exactly bother me. It does confuse me, though. Who thought there was a market for this one? Must be some kind of money laundering scheme, or something...

    2 votes
    1. InherentlyGloomy
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      It's springtime for Sonic and GERRRRRMANYYYYYYYY! In all seriousness though, it's probably one of those things that nobody realized was so bad until too late and now the execs are scrambling to...

      It's springtime for Sonic and GERRRRRMANYYYYYYYY!

      In all seriousness though, it's probably one of those things that nobody realized was so bad until too late and now the execs are scrambling to just break even. With a budget of $90M, I could see it happening too. Sadly.

      4 votes
  13. [3]
    MeMeBebop
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    This looks bad enough that it makes me actually want to see it. I wonder if that's the point.

    This looks bad enough that it makes me actually want to see it. I wonder if that's the point.

    2 votes
    1. [2]
      CALICO
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      I think it looks incredible, in a horrible, campy way. Should make a great addition to my friends & I's bad movie marathons.

      I think it looks incredible, in a horrible, campy way. Should make a great addition to my friends & I's bad movie marathons.

      5 votes
      1. krg
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        God bless bad movies, if only for this reason.

        God bless bad movies, if only for this reason.