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What are some good movies that aren't written from a dominant perspective? (i.e. white/cis/het/male/non-disabled)

i tried watching twin peaks, and the experience wasn't enjoyable. i didn't like its use of violence against women as a plot device, i didn't like the hypersexualization of women, i didn't like how the characters with plot agency were primarily men.

so, i try googling for better things to watch, using some combination of "feminist" and "movie/tv recommendations." but, in doing that, i'm bludgeoned over the head with clickbait listicles using "feminist" as a marketing buzzword. "Top 10 Movies With Empowering Female Leads" ... but, that's not what i want! i don't want Feminist (TM), i want "enjoyable movies that pass critical feminist analysis," i.e. "typical" films, but written from perspectives different than the norm.

i loved tomboy, which was written/directed by celine sciamma. she also did portrait of a lady on fire, which is next in my queue because my queer circles have been raving about it. what else should i check out?

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  1. [2]
    mrbig
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    I’m not sure if those fit bill but: XXY (2007, Argentine) Queer as Folk (TV series) Arrival (with Amy Adams) Kill Bill Jackie Brown Thelma and Louise Working Girl (1988) Mad Max Fury Road The...

    I’m not sure if those fit bill but:

    • XXY (2007, Argentine)
    • Queer as Folk (TV series)
    • Arrival (with Amy Adams)
    • Kill Bill
    • Jackie Brown
    • Thelma and Louise
    • Working Girl (1988)
    • Mad Max Fury Road
    • The Hunger Games
    • Girl, Interrupted
    • Wonder Woman
    • 10 Cloverfield Lane
    • Terminator 2
    • Edge of Tomorrow
    • Alien franchise (the ones featuring Sigourney Weaver)
    • Hanna and Her Sisters
    • Changeling (2008)
    • Captain Marvel
    • Rosemary's Baby
    • Another Woman (1988)
    13 votes
    1. Tardigrade
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      This list looks like a great list for lockdown evenings since I've got a little more time. I'd love to go back and watch all of alien and mad max.

      This list looks like a great list for lockdown evenings since I've got a little more time. I'd love to go back and watch all of alien and mad max.

      3 votes
  2. Autoxidation
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    Get Out (2017) if you haven't seen it already.

    Get Out (2017) if you haven't seen it already.

    8 votes
  3. [2]
    culturedleftfoot
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    Instead of the whole roundabout spiel I had originally started with, I'm just going to say I'm not exactly sure which of these will pass muster since they're not like your examples AFAIK, and I...

    Instead of the whole roundabout spiel I had originally started with, I'm just going to say I'm not exactly sure which of these will pass muster since they're not like your examples AFAIK, and I don't even like them all myself. Also, you might exploring foreign (non-US) films useful.

    Women On The Verge Of A Nervous Breakdown
    Parasite
    Frida
    Perfect Blue
    The Invisible Man
    Little Women
    The Makioka Sisters
    Fences
    Amélie
    Sarusuberi: Miss Hokusai

    I have a few movies on my Tubi list that I haven't watched yet which you might be interested in as well, so I'll be back to update later. Let me know if I'm missing the mark.

    8 votes
    1. radiator
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      amelie was very good. i started crying 2 minutes into the movie and did not stop until the movie was over.

      amelie was very good. i started crying 2 minutes into the movie and did not stop until the movie was over.

      2 votes
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    radiator
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    three things: thank you to all who replied thank you i found this in my travels for anyone else searching for the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT-related_films_directed_by_women

    three things:

    4 votes
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      culturedleftfoot
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      I dunno how much more contribution this thread will get, but maybe you should add your wiki link to the OP? The spiel that I started and abandoned in my post was largely around seeking more...

      I dunno how much more contribution this thread will get, but maybe you should add your wiki link to the OP? The spiel that I started and abandoned in my post was largely around seeking more clarity in what you were looking for, and the link helps greatly.

      2 votes
      1. radiator
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        i've got enough to keep me busy for a while. if the thread goes nowhere, that's fine by me.

        i've got enough to keep me busy for a while. if the thread goes nowhere, that's fine by me.

        1 vote
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    joplin
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    Some dramatic movies: Boys Don't Cry The Crying Game Moonlight Military Wives Some comedic movies: The Spy Who Shagged Me The Heat Spy Grandma

    Some dramatic movies:
    Boys Don't Cry
    The Crying Game
    Moonlight
    Military Wives

    Some comedic movies:
    The Spy Who Shagged Me
    The Heat
    Spy
    Grandma

    4 votes
    1. kfwyre
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      I second Moonlight. I've watched a LOT of queer films, and I'd pretty much put it at the top of my list. It's engaging, resonant, smartly told and filmed, and definitely fits OP's request.

      I second Moonlight. I've watched a LOT of queer films, and I'd pretty much put it at the top of my list. It's engaging, resonant, smartly told and filmed, and definitely fits OP's request.

      5 votes
  6. mrbig
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    Not exactly what you asked, but if you enjoy diversity you might want to explore the cinema of countries and regions you may not be familiar with, such as Africa, Asia, Latin America, etc.

    Not exactly what you asked, but if you enjoy diversity you might want to explore the cinema of countries and regions you may not be familiar with, such as Africa, Asia, Latin America, etc.

    4 votes
  7. DanBC
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    Cherry Picks is a good review site https://www.thecherrypicks.com/about

    Cherry Picks is a good review site https://www.thecherrypicks.com/about

    At CherryPicks, we believe the people who review films need to be as diverse as the people who watch them. We are the place to find out what women are thinking about movies. That’s why we highlight reviews and write original stories exclusively from female-identifying and non-binary writers, when most film critics are overwhelmingly male.

    As women, we consume more than half the media in the world. And newsflash: we’ve also got opinions. That’s why we made CherryPicks. We create a unique score based on reviews from female-identifying and non-binary voices, so whether you’re looking for a night out, or a night on the couch, you know the opinions you trust come from women like you.

    3 votes
  8. Akir
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    I normally have a big list of then, but it has largely escaped me with exhaustion. All I can think of right now is Sense8 and She-Ra.

    I normally have a big list of then, but it has largely escaped me with exhaustion. All I can think of right now is Sense8 and She-Ra.

    2 votes
  9. georgebcrawford
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    Would Top of the Lake tickle your fancy? It definitely deals with some heavy themes violence- and sex-wise - I’m not sure if that’s part of what you don’t want to see, or if it’s that subject...

    Would Top of the Lake tickle your fancy? It definitely deals with some heavy themes violence- and sex-wise - I’m not sure if that’s part of what you don’t want to see, or if it’s that subject matter that makes the cis male POV even less enjoyable.

    2 votes
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    Staross
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    I watched portrait of a lady on fire a second time last week and while I still enjoyed it I found the feminist perspective was a bit too much in your face for the movie's good at times. That said...

    I watched portrait of a lady on fire a second time last week and while I still enjoyed it I found the feminist perspective was a bit too much in your face for the movie's good at times. That said it's mainly a love story, so if you buy into the relationship of the two main characters you should enjoy it.

    Some good movies/documentaries I've seen recently :

    • Honeyland, about a woman that lives isolated with her old mother in Macedonia.
    • For Sama, the Aleppo siege seen from the perspective of a young woman, quite disturbing.
    • Leave no Traces, While I'd say the daughter is the main character, the father's issues are on the forefront, but I like the director (Debra Granik).
    2 votes
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      radiator
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      what aspects of the movie stood out to you in this way?

      I found the feminist perspective was a bit too much in your face for the movie's good at times

      what aspects of the movie stood out to you in this way?

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        Staross
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        I don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it but it's more the accumulation than a thing in particular. It didn't bothered me during the first watch but when thinking about it afterward I...

        I don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it but it's more the accumulation than a thing in particular. It didn't bothered me during the first watch but when thinking about it afterward I though it interfered a bit with the story, but I also prefer movies that are a bit ambiguous or subtle with their message. Also the aesthetics is pretty much realistic 18th century, but I felt that they behaved like 21th century people in many ways.

        2 votes
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          radiator
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          i watched it last night and didn't notice anything, which is why i asked.

          i watched it last night and didn't notice anything, which is why i asked.

          1 vote
          1. [2]
            Staross
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            So if I don't forget anything you have : Working as an independent woman and painting (oil painting was pretty much for men at the time) Forced marriage Lesbian relationships Abortion Almost no...

            So if I don't forget anything you have :

            • Working as an independent woman and painting (oil painting was pretty much for men at the time)
            • Forced marriage
            • Lesbian relationships
            • Abortion
            • Almost no men in the movie, even in the background

            Which I thought was a bit too much for a single romantic movie. The abortion story was fine overall (it was pretty natural and I liked the bonne character) but I thought the part where they repainted the scene was super artificial, specially when the idea comes from a young woman just out of convent that doesn't know much about art. Marianne having a abortion in the past wasn't so necessary as well. I would have liked it better if the abortion failed and the bonne has to marry or something of the sort. The painting scene where she puts the mirror in front of her vulva was a bit corny too, made me think of Titanic.

            Also they behave like there's no class difference between the bonne and the two main protagonist, and the woman of the village feel like they are part of a single "womanly" community that transcend class, which I'm very dubious about.

            Other minor grips :

            • The opening scene where she jumps in the water didn't make a lot of sense.
            • I didn't believe the drug scene.
            • No mention or religion ; people were super religious at the time.

            I didn't noticed much of these at the first watch because I was taken by the relationship, but I think what delimits great movies from merely good ones is how they evolve when you watch them several times.

            5 votes
            1. radiator
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              thank you for sharing. i understand your perspective a lot better now.

              thank you for sharing. i understand your perspective a lot better now.

              3 votes
  11. JXM
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    I highly recommend Bound and Sense8 by the Wachowski Sisters (they made The Matrix).

    I highly recommend Bound and Sense8 by the Wachowski Sisters (they made The Matrix).

    2 votes
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    PahoojyMan
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    Predestination (avoid spoilers, just have faith) Splice Diary of a Mad Black Woman (Tyler Perry movies in general) Ghost in the Shell (animated film) Death Proof (prey become predator)
    • Predestination (avoid spoilers, just have faith)
    • Splice
    • Diary of a Mad Black Woman (Tyler Perry movies in general)
    • Ghost in the Shell (animated film)
    • Death Proof (prey become predator)
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    1. Tardigrade
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      I second predestination, it's a great film and even better if you go in without any knowledge more than the strapline.

      I second predestination, it's a great film and even better if you go in without any knowledge more than the strapline.

      2 votes