What have you been listening to this week?
What have you been listening to this week? You don't need to do a 6000 word review if you don't want to, but please write something! If you've just picked up some music, please update on that as well, we'd love to see your hauls :)
Feel free to give recs or discuss anything about each others' listening habits.
You can make a chart if you use last.fm:
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I've been fighting the trolls on Reddit who downvote most of the hip hop we post in my subreddit. It's really getting to the last straw on that site for me. Sorry but this is what I've been listening to, lots of hip hop just to find something decent to troll the trolls.
Does anyone here like hip hop or electronic music much? So far I've only seen bluegrass, which is fine too.
Please post a lot of hip hop. I’m trapped in the early to mid 90s. :)
I listen to a lot of newer stuff these days but I'll see what I can do.
Thanks a LOT for the message btw. I was starting to think there wasn't much overlap between my tastes in music and the rest of the community here.
You like disco? Heh. Feel free to pretend I never asked that.
There is little I don’t like. I’m really into lounge, exotica, etc — which covers a wide range of genres... that and the First wave of Wu-Tang.
Very nice. Daft Punk and Massive Attack are both giants of electronic music of course, excellent selections. I'm not familiar with Waveshaper.
Technically speaking it's incredibly broad:
It's a little confusing though because it general in the current popular context it usually refers to dance music made with electronic and digital instruments etc. But if you say "electronic dance music" that's basically EDM which mostly refers to a pretty cheesy subgenre (think 'brostep' if that rings a bell).
Anyway discogs is basically the authoritative source on genre classifications for electronic and dance music, you can see that just for "electronic music" they list 100+ subgenres. And those are just the main ones!
That's interesting thank you, do you have a favorite track to recommend by Wavershaper? (Synthwave is probably the most commonly used of the genres you mentioned.)
One of the biggest and best of the early "true dubstep" bangers:
(It is maybe a little telling I chose to recommend a white artist. Many of the early dubstep producers were Black, and I'd be happy to recommend more great songs by Black artists. The Skream track is just my go-to to introduce people to true dubstep. I also like that it's basically a meta-reference to pirate radio, where much of the early dubstep sound emerged afaik.)
No worries on linking Discogs, it's definitely an institution at this point! It can be very good to find new stuff. if you weren't referring specifically to the recommendations then you can just view the main page for any release and under the "Recommendations" tab you will find other popular releases of a similar style and era.
Drowning Pool - Bodies. I forgot that this unironically great little gem was frequently the soundtrack of choice for so many YT videos back in the day.
Demon Hunter - Death (Instrumental). Killing Floor 2 was what introduced me to this.
Bolt Thrower - The Killchain. Pretty decent, found in a Discord server. Nice artwork, which Wikipedia informs me is from the back of the Guards Memorial at St James's Park in London.
Find the channel with that last track in sent me on a bit of a quest, so here's The 2001 E3 Theme from Duke Nukem Forever.
Cheers pal. I don't listen to a lot of rock lately (although I did see the Arctic Monkeys in Berkeley a while back). Full disclosure I'm old, I've definitely had some metal moments through the years (as well as punk, indie, classic rock, post rock, dance punk, etc). Have you heard the Mogwai that came out in January? I'm fond of the jam 'Ritchie Sacramento' but either that single or the LP is their first #1 release I guess. I'm a poptimist at heart, but rockists are cool too.
I saw your request in the other comment for recommendations, I will try to post something in the next few days for you. I'm still gauging where the community tastes here lie at this point.
The whole rockist vs poptimist beef is something I only have a superficial understanding of. I learned of it through years spent on I Love Music. My musical tastes became much more refined through that forum, and also the music blog community that was very active at that time -- most of the music discussion on the internet was happening on blogs 10-15 years ago. Probably how I first found Reddit 14 years ago, which in turn is how I found this site.
Cheers. Although I'm mostly only basing this on my snapshot view from this weekend, it seems to me pretty clear the community here tends to have a pretty narrow range of interests when it comes to art, including music, film, etc. I honestly don't see a lot of overlap between their tastes in music and mine. I mean, who doesn't like some jazz or Americana or whatever? Those styles just aren't a major part of what I or most other youngish people now listen to (I'm not young to be clear, but I can pretend). So I doubt I'll be posting much music here any time soon. With that in mind, here are some more dubstep selections for you:
Anyway I appreciate your open-minded attitude towards music!
I was also going to note that regarding The Weeknd, the bright synthpop style of his most recent LP is mostly new afaik. He has used all kinds of production for his work:
I don't know much about Dua Lipa or Billy Ellish, can't really comment on them. (There's no reason for you to italicize names of artists. Many music writers only capitalize names of artists, songs, and albums. Some italicize names of songs and LPs, some only names of LPs. Otherwise just capitalization is fine.)
**WHOOPS. You JUST said you have an issue with the sexuality in black music. That was really inconsiderate of me sorry. Disregard those last two recommendations.
Sorry my time is a little limited atm.
Well tbh the predominant demographic of Reddit is what I would call the "techbros". Mostly IT people with a variety of people with careers in other STEM fields. By and large this demographic tends to be more white/asian than average and less black and latino; and in general these people will have university degrees and well-paying careers. Some are female to be fair, "techbro" is just a generalization. Tildes seems very much like the Reddit community when I first joined there, which was made up of a similar techbro demographic but it was significantly more reasonable than it is now, except that it appears the community on Tildes is older than the original Reddit userbase. I see the musical tastes of this community as mainly in line with the tastes of the techbro demographic. I didn't worry about the musical tastes of Reddit when I first joined there, and there's no reason I should fixate on the tastes of Tildes now, I can still be a contributing member in good faith here without the need to share my musical tastes.
*I should be clear: I'm not a misogynist, I support #metoo and oppose toxic masculinity. I take issue with your depiction of those songs as examples of misogyny or toxic masculinity. It's just a different culture so I can understand how the terminology would be offputting to an outsider.
Thanks for being so reasonable. I have to admit I reacted a little defensively there. I do wish that the B-word being used by men could get to the point of being as unacceptable as the N-word used by non-blacks. But I do also think it's a cultural difference. I think frankly most black women don't have a major problem with those kinds of lyrics. But I'm white and I'm a man so maybe that's a bit presumptuous of me -- it is based on my real experiences of being immersed in black culture tho.
Thanks especially for that last lyric, it's one that stands out to me too. The other issue is that braggadocio is just an established part of hip hop culture. Also there is an argument that in a sense many rappers aren't necessarily rapping about themselves, but rather creating characters that they portray in their lyrics. An obvious example is Eminem, for whom Slim Shady was sort of a persona. But consider also Tupac's All Eyez On Me -- it seems like he's talking about his experiences as a gang member carrying out drive-by shootings etcs. You'll find a lot of similar content in most gangsta rap going back to NWA (which included Dr Dre, Ice Cube, Eazy E -- and I think soon after that Dre started working with Snoop Dog). Much of their lyrics are graphic depictions of gang life. However as far as I know the only ones who were really in gangs were Eazy E and maybe Snoop. The rest is about creating personas, and using braggadocio to establish their bona fides.
Which brings us to the other issue in hip hop: authenticity, aka "keepin' it real". I think this is the main reason songs like Low Life appeal to me. It seems authentic even if some of The Weeknd's lines are a little forced ("Camo'd all out like I'm in the military", which he rhymes again with "military"? OK I guess). In my experience this is main metric used in most black communities to assess music. Does it speak to the real black experience of life in a ghetto in what amounts to an oppressive police state from their perspective? Of course much of the allowed range of discussion on corporate radio etc severely restricts the political content of much of this music. (Tupac being a main exception, I don't think he cared too much about passing the corporate cool test). Acts like Public Enemy sure never got much radio play tho.
I haven't read it yet, but I know one highly recommended book on hip hop as counterculture is called Bomb The Suburbs, you might want to look for that.
As for your question about the typical tastes of techbros, in the most general terms it tends to be similar to the stereotypical "hipster" demographic -- with a similar fixation as hip hop on what is considered authentic, but the experience of hipsters and techbros being so divorced from ghetto life, the hipster/techbro version of authenticity tends to just focus more on rejecting the conceits of mainstream pop music, and often elevating obscurity as one of the main values of authentic music. Techbros, in my experience of being a music mod on Reddit, also often have an aversion to hip hop and I'd guess also music with powerful feminist themes.
However on Reddit the situation is complicated because one or two trolls (or bad actors, whatever you want to call them) can really shit up a subreddit with fairly minimal effort on their part. It can be hard to distinguish the concerted effort of a handful of determined trolls from general community biases in that case. I am pretty sure on Reddit there are a significant number of white European techbros who reflexively assume racism is an American problem and doesn't really affect them or reflect their unconscious biases. They seem to be quite averse to hip hop or other music that elevates themes of black nationalism.
In the brief periods I haven't been just listening to and honing our demos, I've been going back to Deerhunter's Halcyon Digest. An instant classic that was released ten years ago. It still holds up and gives me confidence in just doing my own thing. If the art is good, it will reach hearts.
Baroness, all discography on loop. Great band!
The only newish thing I've listened to was In Decay, Too by Com Truise, who I'm getting back into. I think it's a sequel to In Decay, and feels like a solid iteration of that album's vibe. It doesn't have any tracks that stand out, but works as an album. Like a lot of his work it ranges from extremely pleasant to melancholy, and is great for intensive listening, or as background music, but this In Decay, Too not particularly intense at any given point, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I've been listening to this playlist that I made: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsDxwO1SMO9P3sVVVOTZG6ADa9uecPQuS.
It's pretty chill as I work on my programming projects.