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Weekly megathread for news/updates/discussion of Russian invasion of Ukraine - October 13
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‘The hell with it’: Elon Musk says SpaceX will fund Starlink internet in Ukraine
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/15/the-hell-with-it-elon-musk-says-spacex-will-fund-starlink-internet-in-ukraine
Well this was all a nice reminder of what you risk when you rely on the whims of the billionaire class.
Yes, but on the other hand, SpaceX exists because of one of those whims. A committee of sensible people probably wouldn't have funded it, and Ukraine wouldn't have StarLink at all.
Musk threatens to stop funding Starlink internet Ukraine relies on in war (Washington Post)
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Musk is going to lose battle after battle, here. He’s a smart dude, but … what’s the name of that effect, whereby smart people think their intelligence in one domain translates to other domains?
I’ve followed Elon for a long time now and I used to have a lot of respect for him, primarily because he really is (was?) one of the most adept people in his domain. But he’s absolutely losing it. The Twitter thing, the crazy ramblings, the descent into conspiracies, and now Ukraine.
Anyway, Starlink is absolutely not under his control. He has a lot of influence over it but he is not the final decision maker, and much better equipped people are at the helm. If he pulls funding of any sorts, first of all I doubt it will be over any political stuff (rather than “Twitter is really fucking with my wallet”), and second, I see the US govt stepping in, in a way that would not be good for spacex.
Well, the Twitter thing is weird. I don't know what he was thinking on that one. It's pretty much gone as badly for him as Matt Levine said it would.
But I don't know why you say "Starlink is absolutely not under his control." He's the CEO of SpaceX, so it seems like he speaks for SpaceX unless the board of directors removes him, which is unlikely.
I don't know what contracts SpaceX signed with either Ukraine or the US government as a defense contractor, but unless their lawyers are really bad, I doubt there's anything requiring them to provide service for free? This is all about negotiating the price. (Giving it away at first seems like a smart move in retrospect since they've proven Starlink's unique capabilties. Maybe a little too clever, though?)
The US government could probably force the issue using the Defense Production Act, but I would guess that the courts would also make sure they pay SpaceX a lot of money as a defense contractor, if it came to that.
Gwynne Shotwell is in charge of SpaceX. Musk is CEO but my understanding is he's not the one calling the shots. Someone more familiar with SpaceX than I am can explain in more details, but that's what I know to date.
Gwynne Shotwell is "President & COO" and reports to Musk who is the CEO. (See the org chart.) Presumably that means he could overrule her decisions, and he's known to meddle. But they probably agree on many things.
Russia is grabbing men off the street to fight in Ukraine (Washington Post)
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Russian warplane crashes near apartment building, killing 13 (AP)
The photo accompanying the article is crazy:
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/fbd8f4064130443db50911e7b98dc70c/1000.jpeg
Your headline and body text don't match the article, which reference 13 dead.
Oh, I read the article late last night when it still only said 4 and then I left the article open to remind myself to submit it here. I never refreshed the page before submitting it though, but AP had clearly updated it since then. Thanks for the heads up. Fixed.
Thought it might have been a cache issue. 😉 No worries.
Iran calls Western allegations that it supplied Russia with drones ‘disappointing,’ calls for peaceful resolution of war
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/19/iran-denies-allegations-that-it-supplied-russia-with-drones.html
One of the underlying anxieties of Russia's invasion of Ukraine is how it might spill over into a broader war involving more countries. After Ukraine's successful strike on the Crimea bridge, Russia had a sharp shift in tactics, involving more much missile and drone strikes on Ukrainian cities -- notably involving a large number of what the press has been describing as drones of obviously Iranian origin. At this point Iran seems to be using the Russian response of deny, deny, deny.
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Ukraine looks anxiously towards its northern border, and a fresh influx of Russian troops into Belarus
CNN is rehashing old stuff. That article is just noise IMO.
Via October 14 ISW report:
Oct 16 references this article as well: Belarus says it will host just under 9,000 Russian troops - Reuters