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Auditors: 30M taxpayers will owe more due to low withholding

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  1. nil-admirari Link
    The article in total is interesting and goes a bit beyond the opening paragraphs.

    Congressional auditors say about 30 million people — 21 percent of U.S. taxpayers — will have to come up with more money to pay their 2018 taxes next year because their employers withheld too little from their paychecks under government tables keyed to the new tax law.

    New tax withholding tables for employers were put together by the government early this year. About 30 million workers received pay that was “under-withheld” — making their paychecks bigger this year but bringing a larger bill at tax time next spring, according to the Government Accountability Office’s report.

    The article in total is interesting and goes a bit beyond the opening paragraphs.

    6 votes
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    Algernon_Asimov Link
    Could you please put a "usa" country tag on this? It's tax time here in Australia, and I thought this was from the Australian Tax Office.

    Could you please put a "usa" country tag on this? It's tax time here in Australia, and I thought this was from the Australian Tax Office.

    6 votes
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      nil-admirari Link Parent
      My apologies, of course I will.

      My apologies, of course I will.

      1 vote
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        Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
        Thanks. It might be good if all posts in ~news had a country tag (or tags, if appropriate).

        Thanks.

        It might be good if all posts in ~news had a country tag (or tags, if appropriate).

        2 votes
        1. nil-admirari Link Parent
          I agree and perhaps that should be noted in the sidebar. Again, please accept my apology, it was a thoughtless oversight.

          I agree and perhaps that should be noted in the sidebar. Again, please accept my apology, it was a thoughtless oversight.

          5 votes
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        Luna Link Parent
        You put "use" instead of "usa".

        You put "use" instead of "usa".

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        1. nil-admirari Link Parent
          I'm a bumbling fool trying to correct it!

          I'm a bumbling fool trying to correct it!

          3 votes
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      Parliament Link Parent
      Not to be rude, but I'm just surprised you would assume this relates to Australian tax law without explicit indication given the fact that reddit, tildes, and most popular Anglophone websites are...

      Not to be rude, but I'm just surprised you would assume this relates to Australian tax law without explicit indication given the fact that reddit, tildes, and most popular Anglophone websites are dominated by North Americans. Even if your tax filing deadline is soon. I do agree with tagging country names when there's ambiguity like this though.

      1 vote
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        Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
        I've been reading a lot of articles recently about our own Tax Office and its policies, and what taxpayers should owe. This happens every June/July, because our tax year ends on 30th June, which...

        I'm just surprised you would assume this relates to Australian tax law

        I've been reading a lot of articles recently about our own Tax Office and its policies, and what taxpayers should owe. This happens every June/July, because our tax year ends on 30th June, which means a lot of people are doing their tax returns in July. So why would I not assume this was more of the same?

        given the fact that reddit, tildes, and most popular Anglophone websites are dominated by North Americans.

        So... I should just assume that everything I read is about America or Americans, because the rest of us don't count? No, I won't. Americans have to remember that they're not the only people on the internet, and that it's not all about them.

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          Parliament Link Parent
          Because most people browsing this website and other major websites aren't Australian. Regardless of the reading you do in your free time. No, but you're welcome to continue putting words in my...

          So why would I not assume this was more of the same?

          Because most people browsing this website and other major websites aren't Australian. Regardless of the reading you do in your free time.

          So... I should just assume that everything I read is about America or Americans, because the rest of us don't count? No, I won't. Americans have to remember that they're not the only people on the internet, and that it's not all about them.

          No, but you're welcome to continue putting words in my mouth. This is purely a statistical discussion - Australians are not the predominant subgroup of Anglophones on North American discussion forums. I made no comment about one group "counting less" than the other, but it's pretty safe to assume that a majority of content on this and similar sites is American-centric until proven otherwise. That is all.

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            Algernon_Asimov (edited ) Link Parent
            By your logic, we should country-tag every article in ~news except the ones about the USA - because we should all assume that a story is about the USA unless told otherwise (your words: "I'm just...

            By your logic, we should country-tag every article in ~news except the ones about the USA - because we should all assume that a story is about the USA unless told otherwise (your words: "I'm just surprised you would assume this relates to [Australia] without explicit indication"). But that just plays into the American exceptionalism that means they think they don't have to indicate where their story is from because... well... they dominate the internet, so the rest of us should just work around them.

            I'm trying to teach everyone here, especially Americans, that all stories need a country tag. Rather than just say "Put a country tag on your story, Yankee!", I decided to explain why the lack of a country tag can be confusing for non-American readers.

            EDIT: Clarity.

            1. Parliament Link Parent
              My comment exhibits no such logic. All I did was point out the statistics and likely assumptions the audience would make based on those statistics and the lack of a country-specific tag. You made...

              My comment exhibits no such logic. All I did was point out the statistics and likely assumptions the audience would make based on those statistics and the lack of a country-specific tag. You made an assumption supported only by your anecdotal evidence to prove a point.

              In the end, I agree with your point and advocate tagging any country regardless of America-centrism. I’m done discussing this, so don’t feel like you have to continue arguing your point.

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        Emerald_Knight Link Parent
        Additionally, if you take advantage of any publicly funded benefits, then you have a social obligation to contribute back into society if you're capable of doing so. That means public roads,...

        Additionally, if you take advantage of any publicly funded benefits, then you have a social obligation to contribute back into society if you're capable of doing so.

        That means public roads, public water sources, sanitation, electricity, other publicly funded infrastructure, minimum wage laws (without which you'd be paid peanuts if there's enough competition in your field), law enforcement protection, firemen, public parks, national defense, and a whole bunch of other benefits that we take for granted every single day. Businesses especially benefit from these things, often even more so than we do.

        If you really don't want to pay taxes, then you need to find unused land outside of the borders of any country and start over there, or find a country where taxation doesn't exist. Otherwise it's hypocritical to continue taking advantage of these benefits while complaining about having to pay for them. It may be a tough pill to swallow, but nothing we achieve now is a purely self-made result--every success is built upon the successes of our predecessors who have all benefited from publicly funded projects for generations, without which we would have been screwed several times over.

        8 votes
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          1. Emerald_Knight Link Parent
            No, I meant to reply to you as a continuation of the same discussion point. It wasn't directed at you, but I felt it made sense to extend from your existing comment. Sorry for the confusion :)

            No, I meant to reply to you as a continuation of the same discussion point. It wasn't directed at you, but I felt it made sense to extend from your existing comment. Sorry for the confusion :)

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