15
votes
Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes denied visa to tour Australia with 'The Deplorables'
Link information
This data is scraped automatically and may be incorrect.
- Title
- Far-right campaigner Gavin McInnes denied visa on character grounds
- Published
- Nov 30 2018
- Word count
- 595 words
Why would you give a claimed "former" leader of an extremist group a visa to visit your country? Why would it be news that such a person would be denied?
Because he was coming here on a well-promoted speaking tour? Because our default position is to give visa to visitors - and refusing a visa is an exception?
So if an ISIS leader promotes a speaking tour, Australia would let them in? I'd expect them to be locked up.
To be honest, I'm Canadian. I've never supported my government allowing foreign extremists to abuse Canadian citizenship, whether Scot or Somali. He and his anchor babies should be deported forthwith.
I get what you are trying to say but I don't think its a realistic expectation that he would be treated the same as an ISIS leader. He's a White Nationalist, with White being the operative word. His skin gives him the privilege to spew his bullshit and pass it off as a fringe but legitimate political position in the "western world" in a way that a Boko Haram leader would never be allowed. White privilege is starting a terrorist group and getting denied a visa to Australia instead of being tortured at Gitmo. Let's not forget that he isn't starting from zero with his white supremacy movement, systems of white supremacy are built into our governments and our culture. That is why Australia doing the right thing is news worthy.
I'm not quite sure how you got that from either my comment or this news article.
As the article mentions a couple of times, there is a character test involved before issuing someone with a visa. Here's the relevant legislation:
The Minister for Home Affairs may deny a visa to any person if the Minister believes they are not of good character.
In most cases, this is just a formality. The Minister doesn't even handle most visa applications. These are handled by officials in the Home Affairs department, and they process the visa applications as a routine part of their jobs ("Next, please!").
However, in some cases, the Minister can and does intervene personally - as happened here. Someone started a petition against Gavin McInnes' entry to Australia, this petition was provided to the Minister for Home Affairs, and Minister Peter Dutton decided not to issue a visa to Mr McInnes on the basis that he did not have a good character.
That's why this is newsworthy. The Minister does not normally step in to what is otherwise a routine matter (issuing visas) to ban someone entering Australia. Also, the person being banned has something of a high profile.
There's nothing in this story or discussion to indicate that an ISIS leader would have their visa application approved. Rather than being treated as a routine entry to Australia, this would almost certainly be escalated to the Minister for Home Affairs for a personal ruling. And, if the ISIS leader was not an Australian citizen, I'm pretty sure that Peter Dutton is going to give a big fat "no". However, if the ISIS leader was an Australian citizen, they'd be rushed to Australia as fast as possible, in order to charge them with terrorism offences.
EDIT: So many typos!
That failed redaction story is hilarious. Guess all those "beat ins" weren't too healthy on the old noggin, eh?
I'm confused, how can there be any less jerking off allowed? Or do they allow some masturbation now?
Excellent writeup, I never knew what a shitfest the Proud Boys really were, I just knew Gavin was the head of them and they tended to cause trouble wherever they went.
Edit: I read the article, and they can masturbate now...
This is hilarious.
It warms my heart to see these kids being massive fuckups.