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Over a thousand absentee ballots possibly destroyed in controversial North Carolina House race

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  1. Luna
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    Fox also has an article about this, but I dislike it because it has a ton of unnecessary images and videos. CNN also covered it, but it's just a video, there is no text article on their site about...

    Fox also has an article about this, but I dislike it because it has a ton of unnecessary images and videos. CNN also covered it, but it's just a video, there is no text article on their site about this yet.

    There's a good summary of the situation on r/NorthCarolina for those not in the loop about this trainwreck.

    7 votes
  2. harrygibus
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    It needs to be made more clear that this is election fraud, not voter fraud. Even though some people sought to fraudulently capture and change individual ballots, because they also destroyed...

    It needs to be made more clear that this is election fraud, not voter fraud.

    Even though some people sought to fraudulently capture and change individual ballots, because they also destroyed ballots and were agents of a campaign that sought to change the results of the election, this is indeed election fraud.

    I understand that this may seem pedantic on its face, but it would be really easy for one side of this, who has a history of claiming voter fraud is a real and dangerous thing, to capture this narrative and use it to enact even more draconian voter laws to disenfranchise real voters.

    5 votes
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    1. Pilgrim
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      What? This is literally the first case of bonafide vote fraud that I've heard of in my lifetime. Are there other examples that you can share?

      voter fraud is becoming a normal part of our electoral process

      What? This is literally the first case of bonafide vote fraud that I've heard of in my lifetime. Are there other examples that you can share?

      4 votes
    2. uselessabstraction
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      It is easy to place all the blame on Trump, but Trump would be nothing without his enablers in Congress. They could have cut him down to size any time they wanted to, but they found it to be...

      It is easy to place all the blame on Trump, but Trump would be nothing without his enablers in Congress. They could have cut him down to size any time they wanted to, but they found it to be politically expedient to let his corruption, inflammatory rhetoric, and attacks on our democratic institutions persist unchecked to this day.

      Two years of Devin Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee writing bullshit conspiracy memos. Two years of Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy sitting with their subpoena pens stuck all the way up their asses on the House Oversight Committee. Two years of Speaker of the House Paul Ryan letting this utter abdication of constitutional duty persist right in front of his face - without the slightest effort to discipline or remove these frauds and replace them with someone willing to abide by their oath of office.

      Then you have the ever-smoldering McConnell dumpster fire over in the Senate. Denying to hold hearings for not only a Supreme Court Justice, but dozens of other federal judicial seats. Sitting on intelligence reports that our elections are being targeted by a foreign adversary and threatening to politicize the matter if the public is informed. Rubber stamping the most corrupt cabinet ever in our nation's history. The Senate under his leadership has managed to do even less than Paul Ryan in terms of fulfilling his constitutional duty.

      It is easy to be mad at Trump. It is justified to be mad at Trump - but Trump is only a problem because he is the embodiment of everything the Republican party already stood for. Removing Trump would be like putting a band-aid over a gangrenous infection sprinkled with cancer, AIDS, and fire ants.

      The party is a criminal organization to the core. It is a mafia. I can deal with the "if it's not broke, don't fix it" type of Conservative, but the Republican Party is a bunch of reactionary theocratic fascist mobsters. It needs to be destroyed. There will be no justice in the United States until it is destroyed.

      RICO the GOP.

      3 votes
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    1. Cosmos
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      I really hate this term for this fiasco. It puts the blame on the voters, who were the victims in all this and did nothing wrong. It should be called "election fraud".

      voter fraud

      I really hate this term for this fiasco. It puts the blame on the voters, who were the victims in all this and did nothing wrong. It should be called "election fraud".

      1 vote