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President Trump Directed His Attorney Michael Cohen To Lie To Congress About The Moscow Tower Project

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    pocketry Link
    Mueller's office has issued a statement disputing some of the claims in this article. https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html

    Mueller's office has issued a statement disputing some of the claims in this article.

    https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html

    16 votes
    1. dubteedub (edited ) Link Parent
      I think it is very interesting that the Mueller team was asked for a comment on this, giving an opportunity to correct certain facts if they choose to, and they declined to provide one. Then, well...

      I think it is very interesting that the Mueller team was asked for a comment on this, giving an opportunity to correct certain facts if they choose to, and they declined to provide one.

      Then, well over a day later, Mueller's office issued a vague disclaimer disputing some facts, but not providing any actual specifics issues in the report.

      Meanwhile, BuzzFeed is still completely standing by their reporting based on their sources and the documents they claim to have seen.

      I have seen a few folks on Twitter and elsewhere speculating that it may have been SDNY that spoke with BF and i dont know if maybe they overstepped their bounds on what they were supposed to speak on, but I dont think it is fair to say that this story is "proven false" as others in this thread have said.

      5 votes
  2. dubteedub Link
    This is the big part of this update. We already knew that Michael Cohen says that Trump told him to lie and he did so on his direction. But now apparently we know there is corroborating proof of...

    Now the two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement.

    The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office.

    This is the big part of this update. We already knew that Michael Cohen says that Trump told him to lie and he did so on his direction. But now apparently we know there is corroborating proof of these allegations from witnesses, emails, and other documents. This is the smoking gun.

    Another great piece of this is that Senator Kloubuchar during the AG confirmation hearing for Barr this week asked the following:

    Klobuchar: A president persuading a person to commit perjury would be obstruction. Is that right?

    Barr: Yes

    Klobuchar: You also said that a president, or any person, convincing a witness to change testimony would be obstruction. Is that right?

    Barr: Yes

    It is going to be interesting to see if Barr remains Trump's nominee given this testimony.

    7 votes
  3. CptOblivious Link
    Anyone else surprised by the timing on this? Out of the blue @ 10PM on a Thursday night is interesting. It's also funny because BuzzFeed apparently gave the White House a chance to respond at...

    Anyone else surprised by the timing on this? Out of the blue @ 10PM on a Thursday night is interesting.

    It's also funny because BuzzFeed apparently gave the White House a chance to respond at 5:15. Check out Trump's Twitter because oddly enough he all of a sudden felt like criticizing BuzzFeed over the Steele Dossier 30 minutes before the article dropped.

    Me thinks tomorrow will be another wild ride.

    10 votes
  4. nacho Link
    It just keeps going and going and going. I wonder what the reports are going to be a month from now, and how we'll look back on January in April. To me it's strange that there's little debate on...

    It just keeps going and going and going.

    I wonder what the reports are going to be a month from now, and how we'll look back on January in April.

    To me it's strange that there's little debate on whether the system of how presidents/politicians are tried should be changed to be more in line with how the law works for us ordinary folk.

    6 votes
  5. [4]
    poweruserplus Link
    this article has since proven to be false.

    this article has since proven to be false.

    2 votes
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      JamesTeaKirk Link Parent
      I wouldn't say that. We don't know what's going on and we probably won't until Mueller's report is out. Mueller's office called aspects of the report "inaccurate", but we don't know what parts of...

      I wouldn't say that. We don't know what's going on and we probably won't until Mueller's report is out. Mueller's office called aspects of the report "inaccurate", but we don't know what parts of the expansive story they're disputing, and BuzzFeed is still standing by the report.

      8 votes
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        poweruserplus Link Parent
        buzzfeed is hardly a serious news organization, kind of surprised how quickly sourcing goes out the window when a certain someone is involved, even on here.

        buzzfeed is hardly a serious news organization, kind of surprised how quickly sourcing goes out the window when a certain someone is involved, even on here.

        1. JamesTeaKirk Link Parent
          Correct. However this story was not written by BuzzFeed, it was written by BuzzFeed News which is a completely separate and highly reputable source of journalism....

          buzzfeed is hardly a serious news organization

          Correct. However this story was not written by BuzzFeed, it was written by BuzzFeed News which is a completely separate and highly reputable source of journalism.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News

          6 votes