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Why tech companies failed to keep the New Zealand shooter’s extremism from going viral

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    dubteedub (edited ) Link
    As one of several moderators that worked with the Reddit admins over the weekend to contain the livestream video and manifesto link from the site, one thing that struck me again and again over the...

    As one of several moderators that worked with the Reddit admins over the weekend to contain the livestream video and manifesto link from the site, one thing that struck me again and again over the weekend was the absolute level of entitlement that Redditors have to view and discuss the video.

    It was made abundantly clear by the New Zealand police / government and the Reddit administration that they did not want the video shared online, yet the number of users posting links and requesting them be sent via PM was astounding. The fact that users online feel that they deserve the right to watch a terrorist gun down 50 people is incredibly callous.

    I feel so sorry for the families and friends of the victims and I can't imagine the amount of rage I would have for these people that are clamoring to watch it.

    14 votes
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      yoshi Link Parent
      after how much time since the incident happened should the video be available then? it's an atrocity but censoring the video or manifesto will not solve anything, it will just make people want to...

      after how much time since the incident happened should the video be available then? it's an atrocity but censoring the video or manifesto will not solve anything, it will just make people want to see it more because it's "not allowed".

      2 votes
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        dubteedub Link Parent
        If you want to watch the video, as the Vox article mentions, there are still plenty of places to go find it. I don't think it should ever be appropriate to post it on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter,...

        If you want to watch the video, as the Vox article mentions, there are still plenty of places to go find it. I don't think it should ever be appropriate to post it on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, or Reddit though.

        What value is there in watching the massacre? The terrorist wanted people to watch it, share it, meme it, discuss it, and give him attention. Why give him the satisfaction of giving him what he wants.

        If your family or community was gunned down on video, would you want people to watch it?

        10 votes
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          yoshi Link Parent
          morbid curiosity i guess. same reason people watch war footage with soldiers & civilians being set on fire or blown up or just executed. it's not about giving satisfaction to the perpetrator, is...

          What value is there in watching the massacre? The terrorist wanted people to watch it, share it, meme it, discuss it, and give him attention. Why give him the satisfaction of giving him what he wants.

          morbid curiosity i guess. same reason people watch war footage with soldiers & civilians being set on fire or blown up or just executed. it's not about giving satisfaction to the perpetrator, is to scratch an itch that some ppl have. giving attention to the perpetrator is just a side effect.

          If your family or community was gunned down on video, would you want people to watch it?

          i'd have bigger issues than giving a shit what people do online. and it's not like my wishes control what people do on the internet. if people would want to see a morbid video involving someone close to me, they would find a way, and me spending energy on stopping that would be energy wasted.

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          1. Wolf Link Parent
            People's morbid curiosity should be weighed against the damage done to the families by sharing these type of videos. This content is obscene, with no redeeming value. It also might hurt the...

            People's morbid curiosity should be weighed against the damage done to the families by sharing these type of videos. This content is obscene, with no redeeming value. It also might hurt the families of the people killed or injured. But above all, it is disrespectful to the families to prioritize random strangers' curiosity over their wishes. Not to mention that it gives the terrorist what they want - to be heard. The terrorist is using their victim as a means to a horrific end, and sharing and consuming the video (and feeling entitled to watch it), is also using people as a means (to a much lesser extent compared to the terrorist).

            7 votes
          2. emdash Link Parent
            Frankly, I think "morbid curiosity" is a terribly unjustified reason to keep this sort of content online. Your morbid curiosity is not more important than the family's rights who lost loved ones...

            Frankly, I think "morbid curiosity" is a terribly unjustified reason to keep this sort of content online. Your morbid curiosity is not more important than the family's rights who lost loved ones in this attack.

            7 votes