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Oil tankers hit in fresh 'torpedo attack' in Gulf of Oman amid Iran tensions - live updates

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    Loire
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    Putting on my conspiracy hat here, but with the way oil prices have been falling due to low consumption with the economy slowing down, I would not be surprised if this is either a false flag or a...

    Putting on my conspiracy hat here, but with the way oil prices have been falling due to low consumption with the economy slowing down, I would not be surprised if this is either a false flag or a coordinated effort to boost prices. Nothing bolsters the price of oil like tension in the middle east. Now I can't see Iran and Saudi Arabia going to war over oil prices, but I'm certainly suspicious in these early stages.

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      Neverland
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      Let me try on that tinfoil hat for a second. Not just oil prices, but any excuse to attack Iran is the goal of members of the US, and other governments in my view.

      Let me try on that tinfoil hat for a second. Not just oil prices, but any excuse to attack Iran is the goal of members of the US, and other governments in my view.

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      1. Loire
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        I guess we will see if boots hit the ground. The Iran warhawks would certainly take any excuse. If it's any consolation 2013/2014 oil prices would likely push a a quicker death for oil. Renewables...

        I guess we will see if boots hit the ground. The Iran warhawks would certainly take any excuse.

        If it's any consolation 2013/2014 oil prices would likely push a a quicker death for oil. Renewables are so cheap now that oil can't compete at those prices. Some good could come from thousands of deaths (/s).

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      nacho
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      I have to say, with a Norwegian vessel being hit last time with the sabotaged hulls, and a Norwegian-owned vessel being one of the two attacked today (the other being Panamanian), the theory that...

      I have to say, with a Norwegian vessel being hit last time with the sabotaged hulls, and a Norwegian-owned vessel being one of the two attacked today (the other being Panamanian), the theory that countries who won't retaliate militarily are being targeted by Iran seems slightly more plausible.

      Is whoever's attacking these ships trying to push up oil prices? Obviously. But there are a number of countries who could be responsible, singly or in conjunction with others. Oil props up a lot of governments that shouldn't be in power and gain their support from throwing money at things.

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      1. Loire
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        I wouldn't even discount the Saudi's at this point, as out there as that would be geopolitically. They learned during the 2014 downturn that shale has changed the game and OPEC doesn't have the...

        I wouldn't even discount the Saudi's at this point, as out there as that would be geopolitically. They learned during the 2014 downturn that shale has changed the game and OPEC doesn't have the control they once did. They created the worst downturn in the industry's history trying to strangle the american shale producers only to see shale bounce right back two years later.

        They know now that they can't maintain market share with artificially low prices, perhaps they are trying to control the market in other ways.

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    Route66
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    Not at all suspicious, given the large number of "Iranian" submarines in those waters, right? /s Would not for a second, doubt that this is a false flag. The warmongers are getting restless. You...

    Not at all suspicious, given the large number of "Iranian" submarines in those waters, right? /s

    Would not for a second, doubt that this is a false flag. The warmongers are getting restless. You can't sell arms to countries if they don't get to use up the old ones and you can't use up arms if you don't have an enemy. Sometimes 'follow the money' is indeed the simplest explanation.

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      dubteedub
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      Yup, earlier this morning Representatives Matt Gaetz and Elissa Slotkin both relayed that the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo specifically have claimed that they can use the 2001...

      Yup, earlier this morning Representatives Matt Gaetz and Elissa Slotkin both relayed that the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo specifically have claimed that they can use the 2001 Authorization of Military Force to start a war in Iran.

      Early this morning [2:42AM ET], GOP Rep. @mattgaetz and Dem. Rep. @ElissaSlotkin said that in private presentation, the Trump admin, specifically Sec. Pompeo, argued how, in Ms. Slotkin's words, "the 2001 AUMF might authorize war on #Iran." Chilling. https://www.c-span.org/video/?461583-8/house-armed-services-committee-marks-defense-authorization-act

      https://twitter.com/benjaminja/status/1139165395435294721?s=19

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      1. Route66
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        At least there is still some sanity. Senator Tulsi Gabbard is arguing hard against going to war with Iran and managed to include it in the Armed Services bill. She's done an awesome job:...

        At least there is still some sanity. Senator Tulsi Gabbard is arguing hard against going to war with Iran and managed to include it in the Armed Services bill. She's done an awesome job: https://www.facebook.com/TulsiGabbard/videos/2429372647349842/?t=158

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