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Portland Police Offer No Proof That Protesters Had Milkshakes with "Quick-Dry Cement"

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  1. [10]
    moriarty
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    Developing story that the "quick dry cement milkshake" story, picked up worldwide, was actually a conspiracy theory promulgated by Patriot Prayer. Another reporter, Katie Shepherd of the...

    Developing story that the "quick dry cement milkshake" story, picked up worldwide, was actually a conspiracy theory promulgated by Patriot Prayer.

    Another reporter, Katie Shepherd of the Williamette Week, reports that the anonymous email was only sent to PPB after they Tweeted the idea that cement mix had been added to milkshakes.

    Evidence of chemical burns turn up to be stock photos. A third reporter, Shane Burley, debunks photo seemingly showing use of cement mixture in milkshakes. It was milk-substitute powder - they were making vegan milkshakes.

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      FZeroRacer
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      I am shocked. Shocked, I say. That's why I said in the prior thread that I would wait and see what the results of this incident would be, because the alt-right will lie and exaggerate every time....

      I am shocked. Shocked, I say. That's why I said in the prior thread that I would wait and see what the results of this incident would be, because the alt-right will lie and exaggerate every time.

      Apparently that makes you a defender of using concrete as a weapon and justifying 'journalist' assault.

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      1. [3]
        Death
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        Given the Portland Police's own tweet they had some degree of legitimacy for a while, and in today's environment a degree is enough to be angry and to pronounce and unknown as a known. Add to this...

        Given the Portland Police's own tweet they had some degree of legitimacy for a while, and in today's environment a degree is enough to be angry and to pronounce and unknown as a known. Add to this that a lot of people were making fun of Ngo before the cement story did the rounds and they basically had the perfect opportunity to accuse people of malicious intent. After all they've pushed "Antifa are the real violent thugs" and "milkshakes are going to escalate" narratives for a while now so the public was primed to believe it and to believe even the people asking to stay reasonable were covering up for something.

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        1. moriarty
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          This isn't an innocuous mistake. As I've posted before, the Portland police has a history of siding with the alt-right, and have nurtured a very friendly relationship with them. In at least one...

          This isn't an innocuous mistake. As I've posted before, the Portland police has a history of siding with the alt-right, and have nurtured a very friendly relationship with them. In at least one occasion, PPB asked a member of Patriot Prayer for help in arresting of an anti-fascist demonstrator. All the while, this is what our chief of police (amusingly named Outlaw) has to say about violent measures taken against the counter demonstrators:

          "I tell you, 'Meet me after school at 3:00. Right? We're gonna fight'," Outlaw said, setting up the analogy to describe how she feels her critics are acting. "And I come with the intention to fight. And then you get mad because I kicked your butt. And then you go back and you wail off and whine and complain."

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        2. dubteedub
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          I would argue given the Portland Police department's history of collusion with the far-right and negative history and violence against anti-far right protests, this was an immediate red flag that...

          Given the Portland Police's own tweet they had some degree of legitimacy for a while

          I would argue given the Portland Police department's history of collusion with the far-right and negative history and violence against anti-far right protests, this was an immediate red flag that the PD offered no proof.

          A far-right leader and Portland police officers made a deal to avoid the arrest of members of the Patriot Prayer group, despite the officers having probable cause to do so, according to video footage obtained by the Guardian.

          The video, excerpted from livestream by Patriot Prayer group leader Joey Gibson, shows a violent demonstration in Portland on 3 June 2018. In it, Portland police bureau officers say that the deal had been authorized by Lt Jeff Niiya, then commander of PPB’s rapid response team, who has been recently criticized for having an overly friendly relationship with Gibson.

          A member of Portland's city council said Thursday a newspaper's report that the commander for the police rapid response team exchanged friendly text messages with a leader of far-right protests that have rocked the city confirms collusion exists between some police and right-wing extremists.

          In one text reported by the newspaper, Niiya tells Gibson that he doesn't see a need to arrest his assistant, Tusitala Toese, who often brawls with antifascist protesters, even if he has a warrant, unless Toese commits a new crime.

          Portland police were accused Sunday of being heavy-handed against people protesting a rally by extreme-right demonstrators, reportedly injuring some counter-protesters and prompting the city’s new police chief to order a review of officers’ use of force.

          But on Saturday, some said police seemed to act mostly against those protesting the presence of the extreme-right demonstrators, using stun grenades and what appeared to be rubber bullets against them.

          So after well over a year or repeated incidents of the Portland PD supporting Patriot Prayer and other altright extremists, the PD then propagated a rumor this weekend by the same group.

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      alyaza
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      truly amazing how a claim which apparently began with jack prosobiec jacking a photograph from someone with no evidence whatsoever would be a lie. i cannot believe that people--even on here!--fell...

      A third reporter, Shane Burley, debunks photo seemingly showing use of cement mixture in milkshakes. It was milk-substitute powder - they were making vegan milkshakes.

      truly amazing how a claim which apparently began with jack prosobiec jacking a photograph from someone with no evidence whatsoever would be a lie. i cannot believe that people--even on here!--fell for this shit that could have been immediately cast into doubt with five minutes of searching, as i did.

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        1. mike10010100
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          If y'all think that any anonymous social network is safe...

          If y'all think that any anonymous social network is safe...

      2. Neverland
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        This entire sequence of events reminds me of the "violent pro-Sanders supporters throwing chairs in Nevada" story. That story was reported by many outlets, including NPR....

        This entire sequence of events reminds me of the "violent pro-Sanders supporters throwing chairs in Nevada" story. That story was reported by many outlets, including NPR.

        https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/ [FALSE]

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      Cosmos
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      Honest question, where do they come up with this stuff? "quick drying cement" is such an oddly specific substance to just make up. They could have just said "They're putting acid in the...

      Honest question, where do they come up with this stuff? "quick drying cement" is such an oddly specific substance to just make up. They could have just said "They're putting acid in the milkshakes", and it would have been just as effective.

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      1. moriarty
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        They've been using some milk substitute powder to make the milkshakes. When it dries up it looks a bit gritty and powdery. So maybe that?

        They've been using some milk substitute powder to make the milkshakes. When it dries up it looks a bit gritty and powdery. So maybe that?

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    NaraVara
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    Right Wing propaganda always makes Leftists look so much cooler than they actually are. But in this case, it's like they think Leftists are Wile E. Coyote. Quick drying cement doesn't dry THAT...

    Right Wing propaganda always makes Leftists look so much cooler than they actually are. But in this case, it's like they think Leftists are Wile E. Coyote. Quick drying cement doesn't dry THAT quickly. What do they even think this would have done? Did they expect these Nazis to walk around with the concrete milkshake on their heads for 24 hours? I know they're bad at bathing, but even that seems a bit much.

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    1. Grawlix
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      Remember at the next protest to bring your sign, some water bottles to stay hydrated, and your ACME Portable Hole! By the way: sugar significantly slows down the rate at which concrete sets, and...

      Remember at the next protest to bring your sign, some water bottles to stay hydrated, and your ACME Portable Hole!

      By the way: sugar significantly slows down the rate at which concrete sets, and if more than 1% of the total mixture is sugar, it simply won't set. It's actually used to prolong working time, to address large cement spills, and (apocryphally) in sabotage.

      So, pouring quick-dry cement into milkshakes isn't only a weird choice because of the quick-dry part, it's completely pointless.

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  3. BashCo
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    Sounds like a case of bad journalism. Hopefully some of the people who were viciously assaulted that journalist and old man will be found and brought in for questioning. The police department has...

    Sounds like a case of bad journalism. Hopefully some of the people who were viciously assaulted that journalist and old man will be found and brought in for questioning. The police department has asked the public for help. I think people might be arguing about the contents of the milkshakes because it's easier to defend than these attempted murders in broad daylight. If you don't agree that it was attempted murder, go watch the video of the black bloc communists attacking an elderly man.

    • Prior to the event, information was circulating that some participants planned to throw milkshakes on others. As the event progressed, officers learned from some participants that a substance similar to quick drying concrete was being added to some of the "milkshakes." A Lieutenant in the field observed some of the material and noted the texture and smell was consistent with concrete. The Portland Police Bureau sent a tweet out to bring attention to this potential hazard and to encourage victims to contact us. The act of throwing any substance on another person without that person's consent constitutes the crime of harassment (ORS 166.065). After the tweet was sent, an anonymous email was sent to Bureau members with a "Milkshake Recipe" (See attached).

    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=250045

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