I don't think she knew it was coming, I think she knew that unless something like this came along, trying to impeach Trump way probably not going to stick. So as you said, she recognized the...
I don't think she knew it was coming, I think she knew that unless something like this came along, trying to impeach Trump way probably not going to stick.
So as you said, she recognized the moment and hit the button. The combination of a pretty clear abuse of power, that is easily digestible in a soundbite, with growing support from the progressive base. There's still a chance he escapes impeachment, and it's almost a given that he won't be removed, but this is the best shot we're going to get. Even if he's not removed, hopefully there timing works out that he loses enough support running up to the election and gets voted out. And then he spends the rest of his life either in jail or living expat in a different country.
Agreed. I personally think it was only a matter of time before someone turned on Trump, considering he only seems to keep sycophants and backstabbers in his orbit, but this is definitely one of...
Agreed. I personally think it was only a matter of time before someone turned on Trump, considering he only seems to keep sycophants and backstabbers in his orbit, but this is definitely one of those opportunities that could not be missed.
It's also possible that progressive pressure was finally coming to a head, seemingly just before the whistleblower report became news.
Progressives and Democrats do need to play the game, but what exactly is that game? Is it incremental change that Democrats and progressives should be after? Or do they just need to be better at...
Progressives and Democrats do need to play the game, but what exactly is that game? Is it incremental change that Democrats and progressives should be after? Or do they just need to be better at politics in general? I've always been of the mind that change mostly takes place incrementally, but given the circumstances that the US is in, it seems like a radical shift is possible under the right kind of leadership. It's just that Democrats have the tendency to base their politics off of polls, rather than push the public in a particular direction through disciplined messaging like Republicans often do.
We're giving Pelosi a lot of credit for her timing and discipline, but with the clusterfuck of corruption and incompetence that is the Trump administration, and the problems America faces, like income inequality, corporate corruption, rising healthcare costs, and the looming threat of climate change - problems that Republicans have shown little to no interst in solving - this should be a layup. Democrats just don't have the message discipline and can't seem to avoid purity tests and infighting which has prevented them from launching an effective attack against Trump. I firmly believe that if Democrats stuck to a simple but strong message against Trump, they could turn enough voters against him to make impeachment possible. Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen.
Looks like the dam is fully bursting. And this time it's firsthand knowledge. No more claims of "hearsay".
And the progressive movement was collectively doubting her. It's almost hilarious how wrong we were, even I was doubting her strategy!
I don't think she knew it was coming, I think she knew that unless something like this came along, trying to impeach Trump way probably not going to stick.
So as you said, she recognized the moment and hit the button. The combination of a pretty clear abuse of power, that is easily digestible in a soundbite, with growing support from the progressive base. There's still a chance he escapes impeachment, and it's almost a given that he won't be removed, but this is the best shot we're going to get. Even if he's not removed, hopefully there timing works out that he loses enough support running up to the election and gets voted out. And then he spends the rest of his life either in jail or living expat in a different country.
Agreed. I personally think it was only a matter of time before someone turned on Trump, considering he only seems to keep sycophants and backstabbers in his orbit, but this is definitely one of those opportunities that could not be missed.
It's also possible that progressive pressure was finally coming to a head, seemingly just before the whistleblower report became news.
Progressives and Democrats do need to play the game, but what exactly is that game? Is it incremental change that Democrats and progressives should be after? Or do they just need to be better at politics in general? I've always been of the mind that change mostly takes place incrementally, but given the circumstances that the US is in, it seems like a radical shift is possible under the right kind of leadership. It's just that Democrats have the tendency to base their politics off of polls, rather than push the public in a particular direction through disciplined messaging like Republicans often do.
We're giving Pelosi a lot of credit for her timing and discipline, but with the clusterfuck of corruption and incompetence that is the Trump administration, and the problems America faces, like income inequality, corporate corruption, rising healthcare costs, and the looming threat of climate change - problems that Republicans have shown little to no interst in solving - this should be a layup. Democrats just don't have the message discipline and can't seem to avoid purity tests and infighting which has prevented them from launching an effective attack against Trump. I firmly believe that if Democrats stuck to a simple but strong message against Trump, they could turn enough voters against him to make impeachment possible. Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen.
Or she waited until her position was completely indefensible.
Dont you worry, they will come up with a different excuse as to why this is no big deal. It is kind of their specialty.