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Police Owe Nothing To Man Whose Home They Blew Up, Appeals Court Says

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  1. [3]
    on_a_trollercoaster
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    What stands out the most here is this line: Since the man had the money to rebuild the house he doesn’t need any compensation for the damage which he didn’t cause, right? And he is also to blame...

    What stands out the most here is this line:

    "What Mr. Lech also failed to tell you was that he chose on his own to demolish the house rather than repair it, repour the foundation that wasn't damaged and built a bigger better house where the old one stood,"

    Since the man had the money to rebuild the house he doesn’t need any compensation for the damage which he didn’t cause, right?

    And he is also to blame because he choose to use his own property as he wished, after the event.

    This is on the same level of reasoning of those people who accuse raped women of being guilty because of how they dressed up that day.

    19 votes
    1. Greg
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      Not only that, but per the article "The city of Greenwood Village condemned Lech's home.". He would have been well within his rights to decide that a rebuild was the best choice even if they...

      Not only that, but per the article "The city of Greenwood Village condemned Lech's home.". He would have been well within his rights to decide that a rebuild was the best choice even if they hadn't condemned it, but the police painting this as a decision of luxury when the city themselves determined it wasn't fit to live in is staggeringly callous and self serving.

      21 votes
    2. Rez
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      Even granting their argument completely, I don't think it changes the fundamental nature of the situation unless the original damage was only estimated at $5,000, the amount he was compensated...

      Even granting their argument completely, I don't think it changes the fundamental nature of the situation unless the original damage was only estimated at $5,000, the amount he was compensated for. As a defense it's poor because it concedes the principle and is now just a haggle over the amount, implicitly saying they shouldn't have to pay for any value greater than the cost to repair the home to its original state.

      9 votes
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    rkcr
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    The same plot line plays out in a lot of superhero comics. Superhero stops villain, but destroys half the city doing it, then people get angry at superhero. I'm sympathetic to all sides here and...

    The same plot line plays out in a lot of superhero comics. Superhero stops villain, but destroys half the city doing it, then people get angry at superhero.

    I'm sympathetic to all sides here and it's a difficult problem. The real person who should be paying is the criminal, but they probably don't have the funds to actually do so.

    3 votes
    1. [5]
      no_exit
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      Yeah, just like superhero comics, where all those supervillians threaten humanity by stealing $100 of shit from wally world. I have zero sympathy for the police, it's an absolutely insane response...

      Yeah, just like superhero comics, where all those supervillians threaten humanity by stealing $100 of shit from wally world. I have zero sympathy for the police, it's an absolutely insane response for them to be chasing someone down for something like this in the first place.

      23 votes
      1. Ephemere
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        Especially if you contrast it to the police response if you otherwise report a theft, which is "Sure, we'll write down that something was stolen from you."

        Especially if you contrast it to the police response if you otherwise report a theft, which is "Sure, we'll write down that something was stolen from you."

        18 votes
      2. [3]
        Ellimist
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        https://greenwoodvillage.com/DocumentCenter/View/13916/Affidavit-Seacat?bidId= Based on the arrest affidavit, this was far more than PD chasing someone down for petty theft. It started off fairly...

        https://greenwoodvillage.com/DocumentCenter/View/13916/Affidavit-Seacat?bidId=

        Based on the arrest affidavit, this was far more than PD chasing someone down for petty theft. It started off fairly low key and then escalated when the suspect nearly ran over the initial responding officer. The PD didn't escalate the situation, the suspect did.

        Had the suspect not fled, attempting to run over a police officer in the process, he probably gets a ticket for what he stole and criminally trespassed from the Wal Mart and goes about his day

        3 votes
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          no_exit
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          that still doesn't justify the tactics used at the house in any way really

          that still doesn't justify the tactics used at the house in any way really

          7 votes
          1. Ellimist
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            I didn't say it did. I simply wanted the facts of the situation to be out in the open. Your initial response.... Painted an inaccurate picture of what happened. Gave the impression that 100...

            I didn't say it did. I simply wanted the facts of the situation to be out in the open. Your initial response....

            it's an absolutely insane response for them to be chasing someone down for something like this in the first place

            Painted an inaccurate picture of what happened. Gave the impression that 100 officers from across Colorado descended on this man for nothing more than stealing a few items from Wal Mart when, in fact, it was considerably more than that.

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      Rez
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      It's one resolved by simply waiting the person out in this case where they had no hostages. Eventually he would cool down or simply run out of food, or even come down off of any drugs he may have...

      I'm sympathetic to all sides here and it's a difficult problem.

      It's one resolved by simply waiting the person out in this case where they had no hostages. Eventually he would cool down or simply run out of food, or even come down off of any drugs he may have been on. However that means having officers sit around and be bored instead of breaking out the armaments, and it means they pay the bill on that labor for camping out instead of passing along the cost of a quick resolution to the homeowner.

      16 votes
      1. monarda
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        That was my exact thought when I first read the article. I do not understand in anyway the thought process of the police in this matter. And since they do not have to pay the actual price of their...

        That was my exact thought when I first read the article. I do not understand in anyway the thought process of the police in this matter. And since they do not have to pay the actual price of their destruction, their thought process in the future is not likely to change.

        5 votes
    3. Thrabalen
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      A superhero doesn't (usually) have the financial backing of the government though. And often, the ones that do have funds (Batman, Iron Man) wind up making restitution somehow (the Wayne...

      A superhero doesn't (usually) have the financial backing of the government though. And often, the ones that do have funds (Batman, Iron Man) wind up making restitution somehow (the Wayne Foundation, Tony Stark's bottomless pockets.)

      14 votes
    4. [4]
      tlalexander
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      I’m thinking the city should have police damage insurance and the insurance company should pay.

      I’m thinking the city should have police damage insurance and the insurance company should pay.

      1 vote
      1. [3]
        Keegan
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        Interesting concept. I don't know how it works, but I'm sure they have to be insured somehow. Imagine if a police car gets in an accident and is at fault, who is insuring that? The government?

        Interesting concept. I don't know how it works, but I'm sure they have to be insured somehow. Imagine if a police car gets in an accident and is at fault, who is insuring that? The government?

        1. Litmus2336
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          Yes. As someone who got rear-ended by a cop, police officers have insurance through their department.

          Yes. As someone who got rear-ended by a cop, police officers have insurance through their department.

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        2. tlalexander
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          Probably the police department pays for their car insurance. Or whatever local government is paying for that department.

          Probably the police department pays for their car insurance. Or whatever local government is paying for that department.

          1 vote