Eh, all fanatics for every candidate are extremely annoying. Yang, Biden, Harris, people that think Clinton is going to pop in and steal the race, on and on. It's extremely easy to avoid all of them.
Eh, all fanatics for every candidate are extremely annoying. Yang, Biden, Harris, people that think Clinton is going to pop in and steal the race, on and on. It's extremely easy to avoid all of them.
It would just devolve into weird nonsensical insults until they eventually realize their mutual love of invading women's private space and become buds.
It would just devolve into weird nonsensical insults until they eventually realize their mutual love of invading women's private space and become buds.
I tend to agree. Biden is a nice guy, but he's entrenched in Bringing Obama Back, and gets really flustered and rambly when he's excited/upset. One of Trump's life goals is to destroy Obama's...
I tend to agree. Biden is a nice guy, but he's entrenched in Bringing Obama Back, and gets really flustered and rambly when he's excited/upset. One of Trump's life goals is to destroy Obama's legacy, and he would be able to easily antagonize Biden to the point where he would just spew gaffes and mistakes that would be replayed as soundbite for the rest of the election.
There are several other candidates on stage that I think could remain calm and yet deliver some devastating commentary back at him in real time.
Does it matter who can go toe to toe with Donald Trump? What does that entail exactly? There’s not a chance in hell that he debates the Democratic nominee, so are we talking about a...
Does it matter who can go toe to toe with Donald Trump? What does that entail exactly? There’s not a chance in hell that he debates the Democratic nominee, so are we talking about a PR/media/messaging war?
Oh he'll absolutely debate the democratic nominee, the man loves a crowd. Assuming he's still in office, I think it does matter. However, I'm not sure personally what would be the most effective...
Oh he'll absolutely debate the democratic nominee, the man loves a crowd. Assuming he's still in office, I think it does matter. However, I'm not sure personally what would be the most effective strategy/personality to counter him. All the normal rules didn't seem to apply to him in 2016.
I really don’t think he will debate as an incumbent. He will wage the war on social media and in one-sided press conferences next to loud military helicopters. That said, I do believe he’s...
I really don’t think he will debate as an incumbent. He will wage the war on social media and in one-sided press conferences next to loud military helicopters. That said, I do believe he’s narcissistic enough to think he can win a debate with the Democratic nominee.
I think Trump has a big disadvantage in the 2020 debates though in that he has 4 years of mismanagement his opponent can attack him on. And whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee, that...
I think Trump has a big disadvantage in the 2020 debates though in that he has 4 years of mismanagement his opponent can attack him on. And whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee, that person is more charismatic than Clinton was.
It’s only four years of mismanagement to the (many many) critics of Trump. There’s another world out there (especially among white male business men) where Trump is just what America needs. I met...
It’s only four years of mismanagement to the (many many) critics of Trump. There’s another world out there (especially among white male business men) where Trump is just what America needs. I met my friends dad while I was wearing a Bernie shirt and he told me straight away “there’s no way he’s getting anywhere near that office” and how I “just wanted to tax success”.
Trump can speak to his fans and they won’t see it as four years of mismanagement.
He can at his rallies where he's alone on stage, and on Fox News where he's surrounded by sycophants. Debates will be different, with an opponent calling him out on his bullshit, and a moderator...
Trump can speak to his fans and they won’t see it as four years of mismanagement.
He can at his rallies where he's alone on stage, and on Fox News where he's surrounded by sycophants. Debates will be different, with an opponent calling him out on his bullshit, and a moderator steering the conversation.
Some people were saying Kamala won that exchange, but even though I'm not a fan of Tulsi, I thought her criticism was much more substantive than Kamala complaining that she went on right-wing talk...
Some people were saying Kamala won that exchange, but even though I'm not a fan of Tulsi, I thought her criticism was much more substantive than Kamala complaining that she went on right-wing talk shows (and a later tweet where Kamala quote-tweeted a Trump fan account that reposted a clip of her and said "I rest my case"). Regardless of what one thinks of that, it's attacking the messenger, not the message.
I am unreasonably bothered by the way Klobachar's bangs vibrate when she talks. That line about raising funds from her ex-boyfriends was pretty great though.
I am unreasonably bothered by the way Klobachar's bangs vibrate when she talks.
That line about raising funds from her ex-boyfriends was pretty great though.
Granted, I'm a fan of his, but I think that's unfair. He complimented one of his opponents on an issue they're both passionate about, which I think is a great quality to demonstrate. The rest of...
Yang seemed to be on stage mostly to hype up Tom Steyer.
Granted, I'm a fan of his, but I think that's unfair. He complimented one of his opponents on an issue they're both passionate about, which I think is a great quality to demonstrate.
The rest of his (quite limited) speaking time was focused on the question presented.
I'll also admit to being quite conflicted about Styer. I liked a number of things he was saying about his climate and voter initiatives. On the other hand he's a billionaire, which I find inherently distrustful for a number of reasons.
I just don't think Steyer deserves to be up there, to be honest. He jumped in late and spent a good chunk of his own wealth to get enough donations and support to be able to qualify, and he...
I just don't think Steyer deserves to be up there, to be honest. He jumped in late and spent a good chunk of his own wealth to get enough donations and support to be able to qualify, and he doesn't really have any qualifications, experience, or original policy stances that aren't copied from elsewhere. It's especially irritating because there are plenty of other important voices like Julián Castro who could be onstage instead. There are so many better ways he could be using his wealth, like funding Democratic challengers in Republican-controlled seats in state and federal elections, or even taking action himself to address issues like the housing shortage in California.
I agree, he doesn't deserve it. He's a literal example of why money in politics is a bad thing, and is pretty much the personification of who Warren and Bernie are railing against. It just happens...
I agree, he doesn't deserve it. He's a literal example of why money in politics is a bad thing, and is pretty much the personification of who Warren and Bernie are railing against. It just happens that his goals align with a lot of Democrats including mine. As @dubteedub mentions, if he's really looking to be effective, being president isn't the way to go.
There's the old Bernie I was missing. He has the fire and brimstone back.
Andrew killed on that Putin phone call question.
"Sorry I beat your guy." - priceless
My opinion of Bernie is inversely proportional to how much I have to interact with his fans on social media.
Eh, all fanatics for every candidate are extremely annoying. Yang, Biden, Harris, people that think Clinton is going to pop in and steal the race, on and on. It's extremely easy to avoid all of them.
Oh Bernie. I love that that's become one of his battle cry: "I wrote the damn bill!".
Did Biden really just say that we need to "keep punching" the issue of violence against women? Oof.
A Trump vs. Biden debate may well be the most incoherent, rambling affair that’s ever been televised.
It would just devolve into weird nonsensical insults until they eventually realize their mutual love of invading women's private space and become buds.
I tend to agree. Biden is a nice guy, but he's entrenched in Bringing Obama Back, and gets really flustered and rambly when he's excited/upset. One of Trump's life goals is to destroy Obama's legacy, and he would be able to easily antagonize Biden to the point where he would just spew gaffes and mistakes that would be replayed as soundbite for the rest of the election.
There are several other candidates on stage that I think could remain calm and yet deliver some devastating commentary back at him in real time.
"I come out of the black community... in terms of my support." - Joe Biden
Glad they're starting out with impeachment questions, just get this out of the way.
Does it matter who can go toe to toe with Donald Trump? What does that entail exactly? There’s not a chance in hell that he debates the Democratic nominee, so are we talking about a PR/media/messaging war?
Oh he'll absolutely debate the democratic nominee, the man loves a crowd. Assuming he's still in office, I think it does matter. However, I'm not sure personally what would be the most effective strategy/personality to counter him. All the normal rules didn't seem to apply to him in 2016.
I really don’t think he will debate as an incumbent. He will wage the war on social media and in one-sided press conferences next to loud military helicopters. That said, I do believe he’s narcissistic enough to think he can win a debate with the Democratic nominee.
I think Trump has a big disadvantage in the 2020 debates though in that he has 4 years of mismanagement his opponent can attack him on. And whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee, that person is more charismatic than Clinton was.
It’s only four years of mismanagement to the (many many) critics of Trump. There’s another world out there (especially among white male business men) where Trump is just what America needs. I met my friends dad while I was wearing a Bernie shirt and he told me straight away “there’s no way he’s getting anywhere near that office” and how I “just wanted to tax success”.
Trump can speak to his fans and they won’t see it as four years of mismanagement.
He can at his rallies where he's alone on stage, and on Fox News where he's surrounded by sycophants. Debates will be different, with an opponent calling him out on his bullshit, and a moderator steering the conversation.
"oh sure". - Kamala. Oh brother, that felt planned, moderators where waiting to set up this cat fight. 🙄
Some people were saying Kamala won that exchange, but even though I'm not a fan of Tulsi, I thought her criticism was much more substantive than Kamala complaining that she went on right-wing talk shows (and a later tweet where Kamala quote-tweeted a Trump fan account that reposted a clip of her and said "I rest my case"). Regardless of what one thinks of that, it's attacking the messenger, not the message.
I am unreasonably bothered by the way Klobachar's bangs vibrate when she talks.
That line about raising funds from her ex-boyfriends was pretty great though.
So either all her exes are really rich or she had serious game. $17,000 is a lot of scratch.
Yang complimenting Styer as his first comment gives me warm fuzzies.
I got it working via my Apple TV (NBC app).
I feel like there's a lot more shared humor between the candidates on stage than in previous debates, which I enjoy. Makes them all seem more human.
Pete kinda got off easy for being polled as top dog in Iowa... Wonder if that's a portent for something or if Iowa is just being Iowa again?
Granted, I'm a fan of his, but I think that's unfair. He complimented one of his opponents on an issue they're both passionate about, which I think is a great quality to demonstrate.
The rest of his (quite limited) speaking time was focused on the question presented.
I'll also admit to being quite conflicted about Styer. I liked a number of things he was saying about his climate and voter initiatives. On the other hand he's a billionaire, which I find inherently distrustful for a number of reasons.
I just don't think Steyer deserves to be up there, to be honest. He jumped in late and spent a good chunk of his own wealth to get enough donations and support to be able to qualify, and he doesn't really have any qualifications, experience, or original policy stances that aren't copied from elsewhere. It's especially irritating because there are plenty of other important voices like Julián Castro who could be onstage instead. There are so many better ways he could be using his wealth, like funding Democratic challengers in Republican-controlled seats in state and federal elections, or even taking action himself to address issues like the housing shortage in California.
I agree, he doesn't deserve it. He's a literal example of why money in politics is a bad thing, and is pretty much the personification of who Warren and Bernie are railing against. It just happens that his goals align with a lot of Democrats including mine. As @dubteedub mentions, if he's really looking to be effective, being president isn't the way to go.