15 votes

Trump knew of the whistleblower complaint earlier than we thought. That's devastating.

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  1. [6]
    NoblePath
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    Keenan Thompson’s snl character made the most practical political statement recently, referring to trump, after the latest outrageous report: “ain’t nothing gonna happen.” Even farmers, facing...

    Keenan Thompson’s snl character made the most practical political statement recently, referring to trump, after the latest outrageous report: “ain’t nothing gonna happen.”

    Even farmers, facing real economic consequences die to trump’s actions, and that they acknowledge are a result of trump’s actions, still say they would vote for him again.

    As i see it, trump is probably going to retain power unless both 1) there are more folks who didn’t vote last time and will vote dem this time than will vote gop this time and 2) there are a lot of wealthy, conservative suburban folks who will flip their vote this time.

    That doesn’t mean that this thing, along with the million other dastardly deeds of his, isn’t truly awful.

    10 votes
    1. daychilde
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      The problem we have in our country right now isn't just Trump: It's the Republicans. As a party, they have been working toward breaking government for decades. That they don't like Trump is true,...

      The problem we have in our country right now isn't just Trump: It's the Republicans. As a party, they have been working toward breaking government for decades. That they don't like Trump is true, but they've been headed in most of the direction for so long. From concepts like "trickle down" to political games that increased so much under Obama (proudly becoming the party not of any ideas, but of obstruction) to always putting party over country. They have worked hard to bring us to the brink of fascism and authoritarianism and a complete erosion of our democratic republic.

      I don't know if we can recover from this or not. It's getting closer and closer to the tipping point where we can't, though. My only hope is that enough people will be woken up to the situation a little bit by Trump and realize that this can't continue. If not enough, then we as a nation are screwed.

      13 votes
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      monarda
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      Support has fallen for trump in farming communities Source: Farm Progress Maybe democrats should address the truth about farmer's issues instead of allowing fearmongering from the right Source:...

      Even farmers, facing real economic consequences die to trump’s actions, and that they acknowledge are a result of trump’s actions, still say they would vote for him again.

      Support has fallen for trump in farming communities Source: Farm Progress

      Maybe democrats should address the truth about farmer's issues instead of allowing fearmongering from the right Source: Modern Farmer

      Second thoughts among the base Source: Cap Times - Madison Wisconsin

      More democrats should seize on this opportunity Source: Iowa Public Radio

      Even the most trumpest of farm industry news showed a decrease in support Source: agweb

      Support is eroding among farmers. There is wedge that could be widened by truth. There doesn't even need to be any promises (you know those things that politicians say that mean shit), all they need to do is educate.

      11 votes
      1. babypuncher
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        Support among suburban whites is also dwindling. Big swings in suburban neighborhoods gave Democrats the house in 2018 and flipped Virginia just a few weeks ago.

        Support among suburban whites is also dwindling. Big swings in suburban neighborhoods gave Democrats the house in 2018 and flipped Virginia just a few weeks ago.

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    3. flip
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      As someone who enjoys politics but doesn't live in the US (I did live in DC for a number of years), it is sometimes hard to believe what we are witnessing. And I agree, this is not going to change...

      As someone who enjoys politics but doesn't live in the US (I did live in DC for a number of years), it is sometimes hard to believe what we are witnessing. And I agree, this is not going to change anything, because worse things have been done and nothing changed.

      It's just baffling what the GOP has become and what they are willing to defend if it means staying in power. It's the kind of stuff you expect from a Banana Republic, not from the country that produced the Federalist Papers and basically created what the modern version of a democracy looks like (warts and all, looking at you, Electoral College).

      4 votes
    4. skybrian
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      Nobody knows who will win the next election. Just like nobody predicted the last one. We don't even know who the parties will end up nominating yet. (I would guess Trump but maybe the Senate will...

      Nobody knows who will win the next election. Just like nobody predicted the last one.

      We don't even know who the parties will end up nominating yet. (I would guess Trump but maybe the Senate will do something unexpected.)

      2 votes
  2. Nivlak
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    Trump wants to be like his buddies putin and kim-jong. He can see that they answer to no one and have complete control of the country, that’s exactly what trump is trying to turn the US presidency...

    Trump wants to be like his buddies putin and kim-jong. He can see that they answer to no one and have complete control of the country, that’s exactly what trump is trying to turn the US presidency into. He has said multiple times on various mediums that he believes presidents can do whatever they want and he is fighting so that future presidents can not be held accountable AKA cannot be questioned or stopped by an equal power in government.

    3 votes