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China has imposed a massive 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley imports from today, saying the product has been imported against trade rules

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  1. [5]
    Magneto
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    But apparently it's corporate America stoking these "Cold War" flames. It's China being ass holes introducing the concept of a new cold war. Corporate America built China to what it is today....

    But apparently it's corporate America stoking these "Cold War" flames. It's China being ass holes introducing the concept of a new cold war. Corporate America built China to what it is today. Pro-China policies boost the stock market, Anti-China policies tank the markets. Corporate America loves China.

    Referring to this post: https://tildes.net/~misc/ovi/do_we_really_want_a_new_cold_war_with_china_corporate_media_is_laying_the_ideological_groundwork

    As China gains more power they will flex it more and more. And if you don't live in the US, you'll be victimized.

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    1. ohyran
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      Would be a less hostile way of writing that statement by making sure to mention that it's your summary instead of what looks like (not saying you are) a sarcastic false summary of someone else's...

      "I think this is a more correct analysis than what was presented in this thread where the summary seems to be that corporate America stokes these "Cold War" flames. China is being assholes introducing the concept of a new cold war. Corporate America built China to what it is today. Pro-China policies boost the stock market, Anti-China policies tank the markets. Corporate America loves China."

      Would be a less hostile way of writing that statement by making sure to mention that it's your summary instead of what looks like (not saying you are) a sarcastic false summary of someone else's statements in another thread.

      Not saying I disagree with you, I sorta kinda do (not completely) but still... "good faith" and all.

      As for the "Corporate America loves China". Personally I think corporations and companies loves whatever makes them money without being too explicitly dangerous. If that is a corporativist or protectionist set of policies, or a globalized free market - or a mix of the two. I don't think it has a conscious role as a whole in anything.

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    2. GnomeChompski
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      I find it a little interesting that China recovered from the pandemic the fastest and still has the economic strength to flex and press down on their trade partners until they bend to China's...

      I find it a little interesting that China recovered from the pandemic the fastest and still has the economic strength to flex and press down on their trade partners until they bend to China's will. It's almost like what the US did to China right before the outbreak where China was about to see deep economic wounds to the US embargos. But FUCK, 80%! This is clear and evident economic warfare.

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    3. [2]
      sp00ky
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      "Corporate America loves China" China knows this very well, and will increasingly use the fact to punish, influence, and manipulate other countries to China's advantage (wouldn't the U.S. do the...

      "Corporate America loves China"

      China knows this very well, and will increasingly use the fact to punish, influence, and manipulate other countries to China's advantage (wouldn't the U.S. do the same?). While a bit of a tangent, take a look at this HN thread from just yesterday. This is a big enough topic that I was tempted to post it as its own thread here. If you think China's censorship is limited to Chinese media, think again. And expect a lot more of that.

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      1. cwagner
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        I think it deserves a thread. Because I for one don’t understand why USA’s censorship is good and China’s is bad. Same with the atrocious Right to be forgotten law where there are several...

        I think it deserves a thread. Because I for one don’t understand why USA’s censorship is good and China’s is bad. Same with the atrocious Right to be forgotten law where there are several (ongoing?) cases about forcing Google to remove results even outside the EU. I could go more into depth but don’t want to derail this and HN is far too antagonistic for me to ask there.

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  2. [2]
    JakeTheDog
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    Who's buying that this is not at all related to Australia pushing an investigation into the coronavirus' origins?

    Who's buying that this is not at all related to Australia pushing an investigation into the coronavirus' origins?

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    1. Algernon_Asimov
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      The Chinese people. Apart from that, nobody.

      The Chinese people. Apart from that, nobody.

  3. est
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    So the weapon was lock n' loaded in as early as 2018?

    Barley is considered one of Australia's top three agricultural exports to China but since 2018 has been at the centre of dumping allegations.

    So the weapon was lock n' loaded in as early as 2018?