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Stabbing attack at North York massage parlour was ‘incel’ terrorism, police say

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    1. MimicSquid
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      Honestly, a high school class that talks about citizenship and how to be an adult. Having a governmental national consensus on what we expect a citizen to do and how they should act is probably...

      Honestly, a high school class that talks about citizenship and how to be an adult. Having a governmental national consensus on what we expect a citizen to do and how they should act is probably better than offloading that duty onto talk show hosts and self-help coaches.

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      Litmus2336
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      I don't really think this is a policy problem, I don't think there's one thing that can be "done".

      I don't really think this is a policy problem, I don't think there's one thing that can be "done".

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      1. ohyran
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        I guess maybe better economy since that seems to be linked to it, would be one idea? Its way easier to radicalize people who have no trust in the future and who will risk any failure as they lack...

        I guess maybe better economy since that seems to be linked to it, would be one idea? Its way easier to radicalize people who have no trust in the future and who will risk any failure as they lack good safety nets.

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    3. Kuromantis
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      I'm a 14 year old who doesn't really understand relationships or intimacy (I even tried NNN the year I learned to fap) so I guess I'll pretend authority and project my wishes. Some form of social...

      I'm a 14 year old who doesn't really understand relationships or intimacy (I even tried NNN the year I learned to fap) so I guess I'll pretend authority and project my wishes.

      Some form of social education might be nice. (Albeit carrying this out before the wholesale destruction of religion or at least it's disembodiment from any sort of book and reducing it into a set of values is a damn risky bet) Hygienic education would be a must. Open sourcing the algorithms used in dating apps would certainly be helpful to enforce (or destroy) trust and accountability in these now-paramount apps. A lot more free time would be nice.

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          streblo
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          You seem to be under the assumption that sexlessness is outside the ability of these young men to change. Young men are fascinated and enthralled by sex. Once you're in a serious long-term...

          You seem to be under the assumption that sexlessness is outside the ability of these young men to change.

          Young men are fascinated and enthralled by sex. Once you're in a serious long-term relationship with a healthy sex life, sex becomes like 10% of the relationship or less. Contrary to incel-belief, most women aren't out trying to get laid by good-looking men, they are looking for that other 90% of a relationship.

          This is somewhere that with some inward focus and self-improvment, even someone not great on the eyes can out-compete someone who is just looking for sex.

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            1. NaraVara
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              Not implausible. Look at what's happening to drivers licenses. Kids just aren't going out as much as they used to, which means they're having less face-to-face interaction. On top of that, there's...

              Or are we saying that ~10% of young men lost their sex drive in the last 10 years?

              Not implausible. Look at what's happening to drivers licenses. Kids just aren't going out as much as they used to, which means they're having less face-to-face interaction.

              On top of that, there's more non-sex things to occupy them than ever before. Plus, you can't underrate changes in reporting bias. For example, is it possible that people are less likely to count blowjobs or dry humping as "sex" than they used to be?

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            2. streblo
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              How so? If men are having less sex than they did 10 years ago that could indicate less time, desire, or knowledge. It could also be from a huge range of societal changes. It's certainly not...

              Isn't that self-evidently true?

              How so? If men are having less sex than they did 10 years ago that could indicate less time, desire, or knowledge. It could also be from a huge range of societal changes. It's certainly not self-evident.

              Also, your source seems somewhat contrived. Only 4% more men are having no sex compared to 1989 -- I would like to see the whole dataset because it seems somewhat dishonest on their part otherwise.

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          1. NaraVara
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            Even that's not really an impediment to barrier to getting laid though. Like, it probably doesn't help your odds but plenty of unwashed, smelly, chubsters are still managing to get it in.

            These guys mostly just need a shower, a haircut, and maybe a better diet / exercise.

            Even that's not really an impediment to barrier to getting laid though. Like, it probably doesn't help your odds but plenty of unwashed, smelly, chubsters are still managing to get it in.

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