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Daily thread for news/updates/discussion of George Floyd protests - June 5
This thread is posted daily - please try to post relevant content in here, such as news, updates, opinion articles, etc. Especially significant updates may warrant a separate topic, but most should be posted here.
All 57 of the members of the Buffalo Police Department's Emergency Response Team resigned from the unit today (but not from the police department), apparently in support of the two officers who were suspended for pushing over and hospitalizing a 75-year-old man.
@spit-evil-olive-tips and @Gaywallet were posting updates about that incident in yesterday's thread.
What the actual fuck... that video of the old man getting shoved and smacking his head was one of the worst things I have seen since the video of George Floyd's death, and these assholes have the gall to resign in protest over the suspending (not firing or even charging!) of the officers who almost killed the poor man? So much for "a few bad apples", because I count 59 in this instance alone, 60 if you count the union rep.
Yeah, what a statement too:
As though there wasn't any other method they could have used, and there wasn't an extremely widely-seen video showing exactly what happened.
"simply following orders".... hmmmm where have I heard that before? Oh, right!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders#Nuremberg_Trials_after_World_War_II
Well, at least it's crystal clear who they should be compared to now.
Here's the better part - they didn't quit the police force, they just relinquished their "Emergency Response Team" role, and will continue their regular policing duties. A large fraction of the Buffalo PD participated, though the article doesn't mention whether they received extra compensation to play paramilitary. It's arguable this is already an improvement in the Buffalo police force, though it might be best for everyone if they resigned altogether.
Update - So I don't know how much I believe this given it's coming in the face of huge backlash for their actions, but apparently a few of the officers who resigned have claimed (anonymously, of course) that the union rep misrepresented why they resigned.
https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/exclusive-two-buffalo-police-ert-members-say-resignation-was-not-in-solidarity-with-suspended-officers
What the actual fuck? So the police union gets to pick and choose whether they legally back their members? No obligation? They can just stop? And then when you inevitably take a step back at work, the union gets to fill in why you resigned? That kinda sounds like the union forcing you to strike.
Assuming those officers aren't just backpedaling because of the backlash, of course.
IKR. There sure are a lot of "what the actual fuck" moments happening these days, aren't there? :(
If what those officers claim is true, it sounds very much like they were all just baited/forced into resigning to make a political point about solidarity by the union. As I said, I don't know if I totally believe them given all their actions (and inaction) with the old man, and refusal to attach their names to these new claims... but if true that is a pretty disgusting move by the union.
"I get paid to lie, and I lie against those who trust me. I don't understand why those I trust, would lie to protect their pay."
Haha, things are getting interesting. Cuomo aired that clip today in his daily briefing, condemned it, and reiterated his support for the suspensions. My expectation is that union is going to get busted hard and fast in this environment.
If the blue wall of silence crowd thinks that closing ranks is going to help them on this they are in for a rude surprise. Ask the air traffic controllers how that worked for them in the 80s. ;)
Attacks on unionization don't thrill me in general, but police unions in many locales are functioning more like gangs than instruments of labor solidarity. There should be no contractual immunity from the laws and policies they're supposedly enforcing, or from civilian human rights oversight.
Exactly. I've learned with unions you have to take them each as individual entities. Plenty of great ones, plenty of terrible ones, just like businesses and any other institution.
The officers in that video show a complete lack of empathy. I hope they end up in prison.
Seattle's mayor and police chief have agreed to ban use of tear gas for at least the next 30 days
This is after (as I posted about in a previous one of these daily threads) Seattle police used so much tear gas on Capitol Hill (one of our most densely populated neighborhoods) that it seeped into people's apartments.
If I were a cynical asshole, and I am, I would read this as "we used up pretty much all our tear gas and there's a 30-day delay on getting more". Completely meaningless, paying lip service to reform.
Also, since Seattle Times has a fairly hard paywall, here's an unpaywalled source about the 30 day ban.
Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of reddit, has resigned and pledged $1m to know your rights camp. As a part of his resignation he has urged the reddit board to fill his seat with a black candidate.
Thread about this in ~tech as well: https://tild.es/pi2
(mention for @Autoxidation since you're obviously interested in the topic too)
I saw just after I posted that. Thanks!
Wow, I'm impressed. Maybe there will be some real reform on reddit to combat hatred. I'm not counting on it through after the message from yesterday.
From the "you can't make this shit up" news dept:
Family harassed in Forks after being accused of being members of Antifa
Forks is a few hours outside Seattle (and probably most famous as the setting for the Twilight books).
Multi-racial family going camping in a converted school bus. Local citizens thought they were antifa members and felled trees to block the road to prevent them from escaping.
"Felled trees to block..."
What! Incredible. Right-wing Americans are having their brains turned scrambled eggs that run on conspiracy theories and fear.
Columbus, OH: woman with asthma dies after police attacked protesters using tear gas
her name was Sarah Grossman. rest in power.
we need a nationwide ban on use of tear gas by police.
There was an /r/AskHistorians post yesterday asking why chemical weapons were banned in war, but not banned for use in riot control, that is worth reading:
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/gwtj89/the_chemical_weapons_convention_1993_has/
I don't agree with the justifications mentioned in there, but you can't fault the historians there for simply explaining the rationale.
This was a new phrase to me, I heard it multiple times earlier today when I was listening to a town hall type conversation on social change. So I googled around, found a good article outlining the history of the phrase : https://slate.com/culture/2019/09/rest-in-power-phrase-history-appropriation-black-activists.html
Negotiators for the city of Minneapolis agreed with the state Friday to ban the use of chokeholds by police and to require officers to report and intervene anytime they see an unauthorized use of force by another officer
So... the police are required to uphold the law now? That is entirely underwhelming and disspiriting.
Why Ta-Nehisi Coates is hopeful
George Floyd protests created a surge in voter registrations, groups say
I'm really hopeful about this. In addition to voter registration and advocacy for voting following the George Floyd protests, the minuscule silver lining to COVID-19 has been the surge in mail-in ballot registration.
Locally, there's an initiative to broadcast the opportunity to register for permanent absentee voting. Nationwide, there are multiple initiatives for mail-in voting that can help overcome racist ballot-box obstacles like this one, among many that defined Trump's "victory". Fingers-crossed that the U.S. has a more genuinely democratic election in November 2020.
From an Onion-esque satire site in Seattle:
Mayor Durkan Kicks Off Pride Month Festivities with Rainbow-Colored Tear Gas
Derek Chauvin, the cop who killed George Floyd, illegally voted in two elections (2016, 2018)
Supreme Court asked to reconsider immunity available to police accused of brutality
Trump invokes George Floyd's name while taking economic victory lap
How dare he. What a massive piece of shit. I couldn't help but shout out loud, "Fuck you!" when I heard Trump say this, even though I was alone in my apartment.
From yesterday, but still worth noting:
Trump Agrees to Send Home Troops From Washington, Easing Tensions With the Pentagon
That's not stopping the use of federal agents with police powers, from the DEA, Homeland Security (ICE and CBP), Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, Bureau of Prisons, FBI, etc.
There's way too much legally-authorized Executive branch control of militarized police powers, and way too many authoritarians in those agencies.
Edit: Additional details here
NYT did a story on all the unidentified police/soldiers being brought into Washington yesterday too, and apparently even the Democrats are largely in the dark about specifically who they all are:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/us/politics/unidentified-police-protests.html
I haven't heard anything about unmasking lately. Silver lining to some very dark clouds?
Pointed commentary on policing here: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2020/06/04/policing-wont-solve-our-problems/
While the immediate outcome of the George Floyd protests may be some police oversight and training reform, we need to pay attention to the broader picture in the U.S. and elsewhere. It's not just the U.S. that has color and economic class hierarchy problems, aggravated by public disinvestment and deregulation.
It's fair to say that police have taken much of the burden of impoverished mental health, education, recreation, and other public services; geographical and racial poverty from deindustrialization; and in the U.S., ubiquitous guns.
It's astonishing what a microscopic investment in mental health alone could achieve. In my very brief service with Crisis Text Line, a charity with a $37 million (2018) annual budget, I've already had the opportunity to talk down someone desiring to act in a way likely to result in suicide-by-cop. As recent stories of police killings in Canada illustrate, these deaths are too common, predictable, and preventable.
In other news, for those not able to participate in the protests, Rep. Stacey Abrams had some choice words for action in her New York Times essay yesterday.
Found the full speech by someone I posted yesterday; definitely worth a listen if you have concerns about looting
A few other similarly powerful ones from over the last few days (titles are not my own):
This Black woman went off on people trashing her NYC neighborhood
Older Black Woman Shames Riot Police Into Submission
Is the meltdown within the NY Times in scope for this thread or should it just be its own thing? It's related to the topic but kind of tangential and more about the extreme slide in quality and responsibility of the Times Opinion page. That manifested recently as a result of the protests, but it'll be a story long after as well.
Hard to say—I thought it was significant enough that I posted a separate thread about it yesterday too: https://tild.es/ph2
Comments in there (or here) with follow-ups/more info would be great too, I'm definitely interested in the situation myself.
What I find interesting about this one is Bennet trying to back pedal by saying he didn't actually read or review the article before publishing it. I don't understand how this guy still has a job.
I ran across some backstory on Senator Cotton, which incidentally mentions how his network of right-wing connections via Bill Krystol got his op-ed piece in The New York Times:
Tom Cotton is definitely running for the Republican nomination in 2024, mark my words.
Him and Senator Josh Hawley appear to be the 'young' stars of the Republican Party, ready to lead white supremacist America once Trump and McConnell bite it.
Attended the protest in my city today. It felt good and was entirely peaceful. Surprisingly well run and coordinated in a very short period of time, as I saw the invite go up on social media on Wednesday. There were people handing out masks and water along the path through the street, people on bikes stopping traffic for the protest march, 99% of people that attended were wearing masks despite the 86 F/30 C weather. The police didn't interfere at all, didn't even see them until the end when they were blocking traffic on one of the larger streets.
Here's an argument that health officials have lost all authority, regardless of what happens:
From: Social distancing is over
https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1268928589975695361
(has video showing street sign being put up)
Another great tweet from her too:
https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1269121684268818438
Related - This is awesome too:
Google Maps adds ‘Black Lives Matter Plaza’ after giant mural completed in Washington
There's a pretty great post about the failure of Reddit to address hatred on the website, as a response to the Reddit statement about ongoing events. If you didn't read it, I'd recommend doing so.
Whoops, fixed. Thanks for catching that.
Pentagon disarms National Guard activated in D.C., sends active-duty forces home
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Good to see we still have some adults in charge somewhere in DC.
Yeah, and given how vindictive Trump is to anyone who defies him, and how much he has tried to stack the deck with "yes men" over the years, that there are still some people in charge under him who are willing to break ranks with him, has restored some of my faith in the US.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell says NFL was 'wrong' not to listen to its players about racism
The video that a bunch of NFL players released (that triggered the above) is also well worth watching, IMO: https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1268724815118163971